[Ggskbpbz]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Streamlight-...item35beb7c488

[TeveVikep]

In my opinion, the high lumens thing is getting WAY out of hand. I have a lot of high-end flashlights, but I would say that 99.9% of the time I run (the variable ones anyway) at a setting of under 100 lumens. My most used flashlight (a keychain light) has a 120 lumen upper end, and 5 lumen lower end. I keep it set on the 5 lumen setting, and only turn it to "high" about twice a month.

My "lumen king" flashlight has an upper end around 400-ish lumens, I've used that setting exactly ONCE... when it arrived to test that it worked. Even a 150-ish lumen light is good to the tree line (about 200 yards away typically) with PLENTY of brightness.

[qzgCVHex]

For *tactical* purposes you want a reliable high output flashlight of no less than 200 lumens. I've got a 200 lumen Surefire mounted on my AK (example below, but I have my SF mounted further back over the Tango Down grip). Of course the model in the OP is dual output, but in the middle of a storm I want to burn the retinas of any bad actor.

I subscribe to Magpul's meme - 'unfair advantage'. Or as a long gone GSUSer put in his sig, "If you find yourself in a fair fight then your tactics suck."

http://www.lsnewsgroup.com/2012/08/1...ight-shootout/

gripadapter.jpg

[jadabaad]

For *tactical* purposes you want a reliable high output flashlight of no less than 200 lumens. I've got a 200 lumen Surefire mounted on my AK (example below, but I have my SF mounted further back over the Tango Down grip). Of course the model in the OP is dual output, but in the middle of a storm I want to burn the retinas of any bad actor.

I subscribe to Magpul's meme - 'unfair advantage'. Or as a long gone GSUSer put in his sig, "If you find yourself in a fair fight then your tactics suck."

http://www.lsnewsgroup.com/2012/08/1...ight-shootout/

gripadapter.jpg

Agreed. You need lots of lumens for night shooting. When it comes to survival, you don't want to be shooting in the dark.

[biannaruh]

Paraphrasing Audie Murphy, "Son, when you really need it there's no such thing as 'too much flashlight'." lol

[uwJzsM8t]

Paraphrasing Audie Murphy, "Son, when you really need it there's no such thing as 'too much flashlight'." lol

Well, if a 600 lumen flashlight will burn retinas, what will my 10 million candle power spot light do to someone? Midnight, I like that flashlight, thanks for the recommendation. I need more flashlights.

[feeshyLew]

Can't have too many flashlights in one's toolbox. Retina burning by a 600 lumen flashlight is hyperbole, however your 10 million CP spotlight may actually do it. All I'm concerned about is eliminating the bad guy's night vision to the point of temporary blindness long enough for me to do what I need to be doing.

[bactrimtab]

Dunno why, but I love flash lights. There's a TON of applications for this. Yeah I bought one.

[Oberjej]

600 lumen? Might I suggest 8500 lumen

[Nppracph]

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[swwatch]

this may seem like a silly question, but what is the difference between lumens and CP?
does any one have a chart for conversion of CP-Lumens?

[flueftArete]

i have a few of these maglite upgrades
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/d...re-c-1_14.html

[Duaceanceksm]

here a bad ass light .... http://www.basspro.com/Bass-Pro-Shop...5011412/350180 ... i have this one , it was cheaper in price but you know how paper works ... http://www.basspro.com/Bass-Pro-Shop...SSSELL_PRODUCT ... i have this one next to my gun on night stand ... http://www.basspro.com/Bass-Pro-Shop...SSSELL_PRODUCT

[RedImmik]

i have a few of these maglite upgrades
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/d...re-c-1_14.html

Very nice, new life for my 3D Maglites.

FYI, a 3D maglite is the perfect stealth bludgeon.

[Preegovesem]

Very nice, new life for my 3D Maglites.

FYI, a 3D maglite is the perfect stealth bludgeon.

to make it work the reflector must be cut off.id recommend buying the new reflector from them. i bought an original maglite one and cut it myself. its plastic so the static electricity holds the sawdust to the front of the lens. its a bitch to get it off without scratching it. jmo

[F1grandprix]

Very nice, new life for my 3D Maglites.

FYI, a 3D maglite is the perfect stealth bludgeon.

to make it work the reflector must be cut off.id recommend buying the new reflector from them. i bought an original maglite one and cut it myself. its plastic so the static electricity holds the sawdust to the front of the lens. its a bitch to get it off without scratching it. jmo

This is a different module that I converted my old 20+ year 3d maglite. It is a complete turn key drop in without any modifications. Have converted all of my other maglites and love it, Better more even light , brighter, much longer battery life and I think drop proof.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o01_s00_i00

[MADwanker]

this may seem like a silly question, but what is the difference between lumens and CP?
does any one have a chart for conversion of CP-Lumens?

From here:
http://www.ehow.com/about_5385320_ca...vs-lumens.html

Candlepower

Candlepower is a scientific measurement of light at its source or how much light is produce by an object itself. If a lamp has 200 candlepower, then it produces--at its source--the equivalent radiance of 200 candles. Candles themselves are unpredictable in terms of radiance, so the actually value was replaced long ago with an exact metric definition that roughly equals the light an average candle puts out. Technically, this definition says that one candlepower, or candela, is the same as a monochromatic radiation of frequency 540 x 1012 hertz and which has a radiant intensity in that direction of 1/683 watt per steradian. This essentially transforms energy and frequency ratings into light being produced.


Lumens

Lumens, on the other hand, are a measurement of illumination. Radiance refers to the light produced, not its effect on external objects. Illumination refers to how well the light reveals objects, and the lumen is the primary unit of measurement in this field. This is a more practical term that shows precisely how well the light illuminates other objects based on distance. One candela, for instance, is equal to about 12.57 lumens. Lumens are measured by looking at how much light is radiated out from a single source in the center of a theoretical sphere to the boundaries of that sphere.

[Almolfuncomma]

Thank you very much Gaillo. This was exactly what I was after.

[anderriter]

I mentioned my find of the Streamlight flashlight in the OP to a friend and he directed me to a 800 lumen flashlight for $50 shipped he recently acquired from this outfit, fwiw - http://www.ptpproducts.com/index.php...lashlight.html

[serius_06]

btw, I've been comparing my 120, 200, and 600 lumen flashlights, and I'm finding that 200 lumen as a scout/weapon light may be too much as it can affect one's night vision even when directly behind it. Still experimenting.