[RerRibreLok]

Religion is old news, it's history, it's out the door.

Jesus said it best, we must put our childish ways behind (religion) and become a man.

[Nikkkola]

Hey, they stole the idea from Poly, someone (was it Dis?) was posting here long ago that we all should convert!

[CFstantony]

I agree, most Euro politicians 'embrace' it out of fear. Because they are big weak pussies in their pathetic little cores. Or like they say it in poker, no balls, no calls.

[Liskaspexia]

You know how I win AQ? If I see AQ dude, trying to raise hell, I'll just put on my Nokia N91, and listen to my favourite tunes. Something relaxing and cool, like The Roots - The Next Movement. Then the dude comes to me and tries to get my attention. I'm not giving him any. I'm like, dude, you have BO, learn how to use shower, you brute. Stop invading my space.

They go all mad and ****, but I'm not even mad, because I'm chilling to my tunes and walking wiht my new shoes. Thinking about the next party I'll attend, the next book I'll read, the next movie I'll watch.. smelling the fresh air and checking out the buildings and trees.

The question is, why the hell would I give 0.1% of my time and attention to that raving lunatic? Many folks should consider the same. The only power teros have is the attention we give to them. I cut them loose.... and chill to my tunes and go for a walk. The message is, they can have any message they want; convert to this, don't say that, you can't do that... I don't care. I don't let Christian fundies to interrupt my thing, same goes for everyone else, atheists, hippies, swedes, ocean people, talking rocks... I'm doing my thing, period.

[Abarricoss]

We should send a counter-proposal and end it with the time honored phrase: "Our words are backed by Nuclear Weapons!"

[KlaraNovikoffa]

Originally posted by Tattila the Hun
Yeah, I wonder, is there a moderate, easy islam to convert to? Something that you just are, you don't have to go to church, eh, mosque, not that much praying, worshipping in your own way, own time. Add in that we can consume alcohol, draw the prophet whenever we want, that women can dress like they want and that we don't have to wear funny clothes and long beards ourselves, and I'm all for it...oh and no sharia law please.

[Blaxastij]

[Hujkmlopes]

1) F*ck conversion. I'd rather pay the tax imposed on non-Muslims.

2) Atheism isn't religion per se, but since Reason alone is incapable of proving the non-existence of the supernatural, it relies on Faith to reach its conclusion. So atheism has more in common with theism than agnosticism.

[berdyanskdotsu]

Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
The tape, called "Invitation to Islam," runs 48 minutes, expert Laura Mansfield said. I love the way they worded this. It makes it sound like Laura Mansfield is an expert on the use of a stopwatch.

"How will we determine the running time for this tape??? This sounds like a job for... Laura Mansfield!"

[Maypeevophy]

Originally posted by CyberShy
religion is not per definition about gods.
budhism has no gods, neither has taoism or confucianism. Sure, but to get back to your idea that atheism is a religion. I don't follow any particular rules that are related to the lack of a god, neither do I consider Darwin and Nietzsche as "prophets" of any kind, they just made important contributions to science and philosophy. I guess this makes me a "non-practicing atheist"

[cliceperperIa]

Wow, what a bold statement. Now, science does not support God at the moment, so if an atheist is basing his beliefs in science, that's not a religion. Science is not a religion.

If you're going to claim that there is a boogie man or ghost, you HAVE to have facts and if you don't, it doesn't make 'not-believing' into a faith based thing.

[barsikjal]

Winston, stop sniffing your armpits.. what you just said makes no sense. I think you already understood how you first got it a bit weird and now you just have to defend your old statement...

"Some religious people might also think that their beliefs are supported by science"

Yeah, but these people usually are not very good at science. It's not the fault of science that someone interprets it like there's no tomorrow.

And we should be able to assume that something that has not been proven is not proven and therefore it is not supported by science until it is proven scientifically. And as such, science is not religion.

This be the end of it.

[IssuessBratte]

Because I assume most atheists are going to accept the existence of God if it can be proven, scientifically. Basically, they're just waiting for the evidence to show up. That's just not something that can be called faith based. Faith based is when you actualyl believe in something and you don't have evidence.

So you should consider atheists to be not believing in God... unless they can see some real evidence. There's just no faith in that.

[DebtDetox]

Actually, I think the rational conclusion would be agnosticism, in the sense of "soft atheism": coming to no conclusion about it. Definitely stating that there is no God is an assertion without evidence. And yes, that applies for the boogeyman as well...

[Petrushkaukrop]

YEs but it's a good assertion, as long as it can not be proven.

Atheism is not defined by not believing in God under any circumstance.. agnostic is pretty much undecided or what ever, accepts both possibilities, however, that does not exclude atheist from believing in God if it can be proven, scientifically.

[Fdmnrnba]

Of course, if we could scientifically explain God there wouldn't be religion anymore......

[Bobdilan]

Pekka...who are you replying to, and about what?

Science says nothing whatsoever about God. The supernatural is outside its domain entirely. Science can no more determine whose religion is right than it can determine which flavor of ice cream is objectively the best, chocolate or vanilla. Claiming that any scientific theory or evidence--I guess evolution is the most commonly used for this--"proves" that there is no God would be asinine.

[Caluabdum]

Originally posted by CyberShy
Atheism is religion as well btw. It has it's own rules (Live to the max, do you what yourself think is the best) and prophets (Darwin, Nietzsche) Bullshit

[colmedindustry]

"The opposite of theism, this broad definition encompasses both people who assert that there are no gods and those who make no claim about whether gods exist or not. Narrower definitions of atheism typically include only those who assert the nonexistence of gods, excluding non-believing agnostics and other non-theists."

Wikipedia says you are wrong

[Lerpenoaneway]

Originally posted by Elok
Pekka...who are you replying to, and about what?

Science says nothing whatsoever about God. The supernatural is outside its domain entirely. Science can no more determine whose religion is right than it can determine which flavor of ice cream is objectively the best, chocolate or vanilla. Claiming that any scientific theory or evidence--I guess evolution is the most commonly used for this--"proves" that there is no God would be asinine. Agreed, science can't prove/disprove God - that'swhy it's a matter of belief. But since science is the usual way we prove stuff the idea that stuff not supported by scientific evidence is not existent is - even when not proven - to me a rational thing, IMO more rational than to assume a higher being that's per se beyond the realm of science.