[pesty4077]

with **** like this we are dooooooooomed

[Dodoerabe]

Attacking Latin America might be a little over to top. Maybe if we just built a wall -- oh wait, we already are.

[wrardymar]

Originally posted by Velociryx
Wall....meh.

Friendship ditch.

-=Vel=- You really don't get the Bush administration Vel. Friendship is not the issue! It is all about freedom...hence:

Freedom Wall.

Doubleplus good!

[astonmartinrx371]

"But White House officials stress they were regarded warily and never adopted."

So whats the story?

[WrigleyMike]

This would have been a good way to revive American imperialism in South America.

[timgillmoreeztf]

The administration wasn't really concerned with were the Muslim terrorists were and half of the dumb asses in the administration were so ignorant they wouldn't know a Muslim from a Hindu. The only concern of these sick stupid ****s was how they could some how twist this to their advantage. Thus we got the invasion of Iraq and the constient claims that Iraq was some how in league with Al Qaeda which was utterly bullshit as anyone who knew anything about Saddam's secular nationalists Ba'ath movement could tell. Unfortunately, Americans are an ignorant bunch most of whom couldn't tell a Ba'ath from a bath tub.

[NumsAmenniams]

Originally posted by lord of the mark But piling on is always fair game, right? Generally, it has a lower risk to the on-piler. Usually, it's the first few tacklers that gets the brunt of the reactive force.

[Stainditnew]

Originally posted by Oerdin


Got dumped last night.
That sucks, man.




flakes

[iNYZgxNC]

Originally posted by Oerdin
The administration wasn't really concerned with were the Muslim terrorists were and half of the dumb asses in the administration were so ignorant they wouldn't know a Muslim from a Hindu. The only concern of these sick stupid ****s was how they could some how twist this to their advantage. Thus we got the invasion of Iraq and the constient claims that Iraq was some how in league with Al Qaeda which was utterly bullshit as anyone who knew anything about Saddam's secular nationalists Ba'ath movement could tell. Unfortunately, Americans are an ignorant bunch most of whom couldn't tell a Ba'ath from a bath tub. Oerdin, having a bad day, speaks the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

[Caregrasy]

Nobody expects the American invasion of Paraguay!

-Arrian

[Lhtfajba]

Freedom Wall!

-=Vel=-

[nerohedfrs]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
3. It was, I presume, Feiths job to circulate some alternatives, which could then be analyzed and struck down. According to a just retired general, Rumsfeld threatened with firing anyone who brought up making plans for occupation.

[Glipseagrilia]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


According to a just retired general, Rumsfeld threatened with firing anyone who brought up making plans for occupation. That is shocking news. Do you have an article because I would like to make a thread about this on another website.

[Diwokfkq]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
1. Al Qaeeda murdered Shah Ahmed Massoud, longtime leader of the Afghan resistance to the USSR, and then leader of the Northern Alliance, on Sept 9th, 2001, two days before the WTC attack. Obviously they WERE expecting us to hit back in Afghanistan, and were hoping to defeat us there (perhaps with the model of the USSR in mind) Or another interpretation is that the Taleban, aware of the pending 9/11 attacks, wanted to finish the NA forces and be prepared for other actions to consolidate their control of Afghanistan and/or coordinate with other actions in Chechnya, etc.

2. Given the above, it made sense to THINK about alternatives - its part of sound military thought to strike where the other guy does NOT expect it. Striking where the other guy does not expect it does not extend to striking thousands of miles from where the other guy is or ever has been.

3. It was, I presume, Feiths job to circulate some alternatives, which could then be analyzed and struck down. A pie-eating contest in Duluth would have had as much relevance to the operational issues and strategic situation. The key is alternatives that are even vaguely worthy of consideration.

4. These alternatives were struck down, appropriately. While the region of South America in question was an area of concern, it was obviously preferable to work with the local friendly govts to handle it. 5. Doug Feith seems to have been responsible for many of the mistakes that have made the Iraq situation as bad as it is, from underestimating troop needs to mishandling Abu Ghraib. He was fired over a year ago. But piling on is always fair game, right? Piling it on? How many dead US troops, not to mention other cost and operational impacts has this incompetent ass caused? Being fired or occasionally targeted by articles pointing out his gross incompetence is extremely mild in relation to the damage he has caused to US personnel and policy. He should be assigned to drive a truck back and forth between Falluja and ar Ramadi. Feith is lucky there's no mechanism for him to be put in front of a wall, and anything less is treating him with more consideration than he deserves.

I do agree that there are more pressing questions: Why was he retained so long, who supported his retention, and who at higher levels needs to be held accountable for the series of FUBARs that has got us where we are today?

[Sertvfdnhgjk]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
It's like a CFO of a Fortune 1000 company writing memos and reports to the CEO and board addressing the issue of employee pilferage from self-serve candy boxes in break rooms. It's a total misdirection of executive resources. Sez you. I want to freakin kill the mofo that stole my Milky Way bars. Hangins too good.