[Stasher11]

well they suceeded in getting climate change in the news again and raising awareness of this power station that youre not allowed to walk near for your own health

[Kolokireo]

If only we could harness the power of their over-sized floppy feet....

[Lafclaria]

Hey SIkander, I wonder if the media over there have been reporting the congressional hearing in late July with McIntyre and how it was played out?

We heard absolutely nothing about it over here in the UK, despite it leading to the complete refuting of the most iconic images of climate change.

ps.

[Xutrsavf]

I live about 5 miles from drax

[Vulkanevsel]

What does that graph show?

The indy seems get carried away with championing causes. Ive lost a lot of respect for it since their coverage of the iraq war, their editorial policy doesnt seem nearly as independent anymore

perhaps this is an issue thats needs all the coverage it can get? individuals can reduce their carbon burden in a number of ways, but is this regularly practiced in the majority?

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[Snocioncilm]

There's plenty of bad data and misrepresentation from both sides and peer review etc. has worked amazingly well in science over one of the most amazing eras in human scientific progress.

The thing to remember is, whatever problems statisticians find with the data doesn't disprove climate change, it just means that the proofs have to be more rigourous.

[drgshmcm]

Originally posted by TheStinger
I thought most scientists accepted climate change but there was still disagreement over the causes One would given the one-sided view of it in the British media.

[MwhwF6bp]

I am always a bit sceptical about impending doom scenarios, when I was at school in the 80's the current thinking was that the oil would run out in 2000 and we were about to enter another ice age.

However there does seem to be fair amount of evidence of the climate warming up.

[ëàìèíàò]

I guess my question is this: ok, you don't like carbon emissions, and therefore coal power plants are something you want done away with. But if the plants are shut down, right now, how do you take up the slack. Even assuming conserving some power, you'd be waaaaay short.

By all means, vote for the Greens. Support alternative power generation (hell, I pay more than I have to on my power bill for just such a purpose). But this? Moronic.

-Arrian

[Clarissa]

that might be the right argument to bring PA around

[BenWired306]

yeah i guess. although how we are going to get the yanks out of their cars I will be buggered if I know

[finasteride]

Originally posted by Snotty
yeah i guess. although how we are going to get the yanks out of their cars I will be buggered if I know Reduce the size of the continent.

[Aminkaoo]

I wonder if the company that owns the powerstation also manufactures space shuttles?

[wMceqj7F]

Originally posted by Park Avenue
There is no disproving to be done. The case has not yet been made. I guess you are better than 90% of the climatologists, then.

[mrllxp]

The Argumentum ad Populorum fallacy applies only to laypeople, PA, not experts.. Your taking an extreme interpretation of Kuhn's philosphy of science to fit your biases.

[PVaQlNaP]

Originally posted by Odin
The Argumentum ad Populorum fallacy applies only to laypeople, PA, not experts.. Your taking an extreme interpretation of Kuhn's philosphy of science to fit your biases. If only climatologists were experts in statistics as well..

And Whaleboy, I'm surprised by you.

[Narus63]

Originally posted by Park Avenue


If only climatologists were experts in statistics as well..

And Whaleboy, I'm surprised by you.
"There are lies, damned lies, and statistics."

[Meerenuch]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


All statisticians, a number of them, or a small handful?



Who watches the watchmen? I'd be relatively satisfied with econometricians, given their experience with applied statistical problems (time-series model fitting in the presence of proxy autocorrelation, etc).

Of course, any methods employed would originally be derived from the statistical field, rather than the climatological field, and all data and methods would be fully published and detailed.

[botagozzz]

Originally posted by Park Avenue


Typical stupid dolers and bored impressionable students I guess.
Which one are you?

[indocrew]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


Which one are you? Neither. The one who follows the science.