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Originally posted by Lancer
Can you give me the readers digest version? ![]() OK, so there's this guy named Elliot, right? He's best friends with this other guy named Tedd. Tedd has a transformation gun. One day, Tedd accidentally zaps Elliot with said gun, turning him into a girl. The gun then promptly malfunctions, so Elliot is stuck as a girl. Elliot is not pleased. Fortunately, Tedd's father works for The Government, in about the same department that also handles affairs such as Area 51 and Roswell. And because of that, Tedd knows of a lightly guarded government warehouse that holds a magical diamond that may cure Elliot's 'curse'. They find the warehouse, Elliot touches the diamond. And it works! Huzzah, Elliot is male again. Unfortunately, this happened by kind of ripping the female out of him. So now there's a guy Elliot and a seperate girl Elliot. Stuff happens. In the end, Elliot and girl Elliot (who adopts the name 'Ellen') decide to return home. There, Elliot has to explain to his parents what just happened. Elliot's parents, fitting right in with all the strangeness around them, speculate on what Ellen exactly is. True, she can be considered Elliot's twin, but they feel that it would more appropriate to say that Ellen is Elliot's 'daughter' with Tedd being the 'father'. Elliot freaks out a bit about this discussion and leaves. Only to be promptly glomped by Ellen screaming MOMMY!!! Elliot freaks out completely and screams the immortal phrase: |
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Originally posted by Sava
Priority one should be survival. Not making money, not fighting over land or ideology or religion... but survival. Uhh... what do you think making money & fighting over land, ideology & religion is about? It's about survival. When the survival and prosperity of some may hurt the survival and prosperity of others, that's when war happens. Once we have unlimited land, food, resources, wealth, material goods, etc, then maybe we'll be done with war. Till then, survival sadly & paradoxically necessitates war. |
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There will (unless peoples form changes) be some who want to control others. That is something that is independent of material resources.
People like to coerce others, they like to control others. We see that today, although we have a 'democracy' and slavery is illegal. But still people make others slaves, either through ecnonomy or drugs or other reasons (often emotional). Jon Miller |
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Originally posted by Zkribbler
Cripies, we're not even to Type I yet ![]() So, what are we? Type 0? ![]() http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale |
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Originally posted by Sava
Hawking is correct. While you tards sit here and squabble about how humanity might die, you are ignoring the big picture. ![]() ![]() The Earth is not a permanent home. The longer we sit around on our asses not finding a way to go out into space, the more likely it is something bad could happen. Priority one should be survival. Not making money, not fighting over land or ideology or religion... but survival. Once humanity realizes this, we will finally get our sh1t together and work together. But until then, most of humanity is just a bunch of highly evolved, intelligent (and I use that term loosely) apes. ![]() The current mass extinction will probably never end until humanity has moved offworld. Obviously this assumes that first world human fertility patterns will eventually become the norm. I'm not sure it would ever be practical to move a growing human population completely off of the earth. |
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Preventing Earth threataning desasters from happeneing requires a lot less energy/knowledge than moving away from Earth and adapting to a different enviroment. Considering that the only inevitable destructive event is a few billion years away, we are not realy late yet with our preparations for interstellar travel.
I say we start massive teraforming projects on Earth now ![]() This is a much better use of resources than traveling to another star/s. |
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Originally posted by Sir Og
Preventing Earth threataning desasters from happeneing requires a lot less energy/knowledge than moving away from Earth and adapting to a different enviroment. Considering that the only inevitable destructive event is a few billion years away, we are not realy late yet with our preparations for interstellar travel. I say we start massive teraforming projects on Earth now ![]() This is a much better use of resources than traveling to another star/s. But there's more resources outside of the Earth in this solar system than can be found on the Earth. We just need more infrastructure upfront to exploit resources at those other locations. On Earth more infrastructure means a larger environmental footprint. Elsewhere in the solar system the absence of an existing ecosystem means the concept of environmental footprint doesn't really apply. So if limited resources is being used as an argument against expanding into space it should probably be considered as a reason for expanding into space so long as you care about preserving long term biodiversity here on Earth. |
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Originally posted by OzzyKP
Uhh... what do you think making money & fighting over land, ideology & religion is about? Greed. Power. The desire to control. At one time, conflict was about survival... perhaps when warring tribes raided each other for the necessities. War ceased to be about survival a very long time ago. Again, when people learn to put aside their petty differences and realize we are all stuck on this planet together, then there will be unity and we will work together towards the goal of the long term survival of our species. But then again, it's obvious that a lot of you are incapable, as most people are, of seeing the big picture. And sadly, that's the problem with the world today. Nobody cares about the big picture. I think the only solution is education... but there seems to be a lot of people who are opposed to that, for one reason or another. ![]() It seems so simple... telling people to not be dumbasses. But if it were only that simple, the world wouldn't be so ****ed up. Although, the real shame is, I think the point is going to be lost on a lot of you. ![]() It's too bad genius is ignored. In the end, the very survival of our species could depend on listening to people like Hawking. But nevermind, carry on with your usual nonsensical posting and such. ![]() I'll just engage in my usual asshattery because trying to educate you people is really quite pointless. ![]() |
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Originally posted by Sandman
There are more resources in the oceans, as well. Yet there is no serious effort to colonise the seas. Oil rigs are about as close as it gets, and they're dreadful places which no-one seriously considers as an alternative to land-based life. The oceans have an enormous and diverse and very poorly understood ecosystem. Your proposal to exploit ocean resources as an alternative to space resource exploitation completely misses the point that exploiting space resources has effectively no environmental footprint associated with it. Furthermore, the reason oil rigs are dreadful places nobody would consider living on is because they aren't designed to be inviting places. Compare living on an oil rig to living on a house boat or a humongous private yacht. I would think rather a lot of people would enjoy living on the humongous private yacht and yet you use oil rigs as an example of how living on dry land here on earth is the only palatable option for humans. |
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