[Beerinkol]

awoke turned me on to this site some time ago...

http://www.backyardmetalcasting.com/

lots of info!!

Now all's we need is a strip of land in Nevada with mining rights, and we can produce a bounty.

[Pdarasenko]

awoke turned me on to this site some time ago...

http://www.backyardmetalcasting.com/

lots of info!!

When much younger in the teen years, my best friend and me used to walk the rr tracks and pick up coal and coke that fell off the hopper cars. We made a smelting furnace just to see what we could melt in it. Used an old vacuum cleaner rigged to blow air (all could back then) for the blower. We had friends that their fathers worked at lone star steel so was able to snag what we needed to do the job plus some advice, (they thought it was cool that kids took interest) Copper was easy to melt, and we were able to melt local iron ore.

Looking back,at the crazy things we did back then, am amazed , still walking this earth

[HedoShoodovex]

The big thing around here is people stealing ANYTHING electrical that is left behind the local charities, Goodwill, & thrift stores. But what really pisses me off is that they wont take this crap back to their shithole to scavenge.

Back behind my house is a wooded area with a dirt road. Nice lil country road. These losers will take all that shit and strip it back there on the dirt road, leaving the carcasses of TV's, pc monitors, household stuff & whatever. Then if thats not bad enough then the local teens go back there and bust out all the screens and just tear everything up. Broken glass & shit everywhere

So, Now, there is all this shit..looks like a fucking junkyard now. Call the city? yeah right..been there done that..worthless. Ive even takin it upon myself to clean it then a week later its the same way.

[melissa]

shorty--

you could try calling some of the local metal scrappers, they may find some value in it. (where i live, there are always drop off bins, p/u as well). just because all the "good stuff" has been poached doesn't mean there is no more value to be had...the scrapmonster link i posted earlier in the thread would show you if there is any value in the carcasses left behind...

[traithJah]

awoke turned me on to this site some time ago...

http://www.backyardmetalcasting.com/

lots of info!!

i would love to see a resurgence of the Industrial Arts in American schools. and for the girls too !

if people knew how hard it is to melt steel - or even silver gold or copper - they would realize what a bunch of hogwash the official US gov. 9-11 conspiracy theory is.

[FloareTraurne]

i would love to see a resurgence of the Industrial Arts in American schools. and for the girls too !

if people knew how hard it is to melt steel - or even silver gold or copper - they would realize what a bunch of hogwash the official US gov. 9-11 conspiracy theory is.

The interest in how things are made is truely sad. I graduated highschool 9 years ago now out of a highschool that had approximatly 2500 students. My last year grade 12, 3 students chose to enroll in metal shop class. The shop itselft was awsome lathes, mills, drill presses, grinders, every type of welder, an oldschool blacksmith furnace, benders, punches, I could go on and on. The course itself was a joke make two manditory projects then build whatever the hell you wanted and get graded on it. Three kids enrolled unreal.

[Pdarasenko]

The interest in how things are made is truely sad. I graduated highschool 9 years ago now out of a highschool that had approximatly 2500 students. My last year grade 12, 3 students chose to enroll in metal shop class. The shop itselft was awsome lathes, mills, drill presses, grinders, every type of welder, an oldschool blacksmith furnace, benders, punches, I could go on and on. The course itself was a joke make two manditory projects then build whatever the hell you wanted and get graded on it. Three kids enrolled unreal.

Back in the 60's , I took every metal shop and drafting class offered, and then some, The teacher was a cranky old, sob, named Grady Parrish that would bust our butts good if things got out of hand. He knew his stuff--cold, best dam teacher , ever!

[portoskins]

They are working on a bill now, to make it illegal to sell anything that can not be verified from where it comes from, copper ,aluminum and who you are and where you live, illegal. Trying to cut down on the theft.

It is that bad.

i don't think .gov is worried about theft
i think they're trying to put the squeeze on future underground/barter economies

[portoskins]

Back in the 60's , I took every metal shop and drafting class offered, and then some, The teacher was a cranky old, sob, named Grady Parrish that would bust our butts good if things got out of hand. He knew his stuff--cold, best dam teacher , ever!

those that actually know how to work with their hands will be in great demand after TSHTF

" i don't know what makes it work, i just hit the button

can YOU fix it ?"

[Pdarasenko]

those that actually know how to work with their hands will be in great demand after tshtf

" i don't know what makes it work, i just hit the button

can you fix it ?"

So much truth!




8)

[dasneycomrov]

I took wood shop in high school, recently found out that my old high school doesn't even offer that any more. They don't even offer auto shop any more, sad.. It seems as though learning hands on trades has been crushed out of existence as an option.

The funniest class I took was in 12th grade. I signed up for a class called maintenance and repair. Out of over 300 kids in my 12th grade class, only 2 of us signed up for this class. The "teacher" was the school maintenance guy, the class room was his one room shed of tools, and the course was us going around the school simply fixing things that were broken. I actually learned a lot of hands-on troubleshooting skills from that class, even though that class was kind of a joke. It was obvious that the class was just to give the maintenance guy some extra help, without having to hire an extra worker. Half the time the maintenance guy was out fixing things when we showed up. Me and the other kid would have to walk around the school trying to track him down. Sometimes we couldn't find him at all. We both got A's in that class.

Without good maintenance men and people, around to fix or correct. The whole dam world would grind to a halt.------No exceptions.

[FloareTraurne]

Back in the 60's , I took every metal shop and drafting class offered, and then some, The teacher was a cranky old, sob, named Grady Parrish that would bust our butts good if things got out of hand. He knew his stuff--cold, best dam teacher , ever!

Good ol crusty shop teacher sounds like mine. He was good though taught me alot of basic things do's and don't's. I see people I work with in industry fucking these basic princliples up all the time.

That shop sounds like my HS metal shop. Although we didn't have a blacksmith furnace.

Here's a pic of one of my projects. Titanium candlestick holders. They had piles of the stuff laying around, but I was the only one that wanted to use it. It's some tough stuff. Broke at least one or two tools on it. lol

Those candlestick holders look sweet. Only worked with titanium once, had to lasercut some blanks out of a 6mm thick sheet. That stuff is not friendly. Probably took me two hours to find a suitable cutting condition.

I took wood shop in high school, recently found out that my old high school doesn't even offer that any more. They don't even offer auto shop any more, sad.. It seems as though learning hands on trades has been crushed out of existence as an option.

The funniest class I took was in 12th grade. I signed up for a class called maintenance and repair. Out of over 300 kids in my 12th grade class, only 2 of us signed up for this class. The "teacher" was the school maintenance guy, the class room was his one room shed of tools, and the course was us going around the school simply fixing things that were broken. I actually learned a lot of hands-on troubleshooting skills from that class, even though that class was kind of a joke. It was obvious that the class was just to give the maintenance guy some extra help, without having to hire an extra worker. Half the time the maintenance guy was out fixing things when we showed up. Me and the other kid would have to walk around the school trying to track him down. Sometimes we couldn't find him at all. We both got A's in that class.

That maintenance class sounds awsome.LOL Probably helped develop problem solving skills more than you think it did.

The new highschool they're building in my town is only going to have a small 2 bay auto shop I believe. Even at a young age in schools we're teaching kids to go pursue some bullshit profession involving making paper run in circles instead of getting young people into careers of producing tangible things that create real wealth.

[traithJah]

when i was in school, there was a big emphasis on industrial arts ... i guess i was lucky.

part of my education was all the little shop accidents.

once i was using a chisel to carve the edge of a piece of Formica. my left hand was about 5 inches away from the chisel, which was very sharp. it slipped and drove right into my left middle finger, to the bone.

i took the rest of the day off. :-)


another time i knocked a 235 watt vane-axial blower off a table. it was on. i tried to imitate Bruce Lee and catch it mid-air. THOK ! the blade smacked one of my fingers right on the end, down to the bone. i went into the bathroom, opened it up under the faucet, and realized i was about to faint. i laid down for a half hour.

[Pdarasenko]

when i was in school, there was a big emphasis on industrial arts ... i guess i was lucky.

part of my education was all the little shop accidents.

once i was using a chisel to carve the edge of a piece of Formica. my left hand was about 5 inches away from the chisel, which was very sharp. it slipped and drove right into my left middle finger, to the bone.

i took the rest of the day off. :-)


another time i knocked a 235 watt vane-axial blower off a table. it was on. i tried to imitate Bruce Lee and catch it mid-air. THOK ! the blade smacked one of my fingers right on the end, down to the bone. i went into the bathroom, opened it up under the faucet, and realized i was about to faint. i laid down for a half hour.

Yep

When young we do tend to learn from our ignorance , good life lessons, ------if we survive them.

[Qesomud]

SCORE !

i knew this was going to happen.

there's maybe 4 locations in San Fransicko where Big Hunks of Valuable Metal are on Display -
* City Hall - 2 Bronze Sculptures right there on Van Ness
* Geary - Saint Mary's Cathedral - skateboard park/ Catholic church - 5000 pound copper bell just sitting there.
* Russian Orthodox church - 25th & Geary - Gold Leaf on Roof.

Well ... they got the Bell. 5000 pounds of copper. took the church a month to realize it was gone. it didn't look like copper - it was oxidized/ corroded.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...LIPU.DTL&tsp=1

"SAN FRANCISCO -- The bell at St. Mary's Cathedral rang through the 1906 San Francisco earthquake and fire. It survived when an arsonist torched the old cathedral in 1962. And although it was replaced with an electronic chime in the 1970s, for decades it stood strong on a wooden platform outside the rebuilt church.

But sometime in the last month, metal thieves made off with the 122-year-old, 2.7-ton bell."


Can you imagine pulling up in a truck (e.g. F250 with Power Stroke Diesel & Flatbed), with a crane, cabling up the bell, hoisting it, & re-packing the crane ? In the dark ?

Sounds DANGEROUS.

If I was the cops I would check with local hospital Emergency Rooms for patients with squished fingers & crushed feet during that time-frame.


So, 1 down, 3 to go. wonder which one will be next ?