[Svatudjw]

Probably. I understand that part better than you know. Keep your head up, keep doing what you know is right and don't let this rock your faith in God. The people within the building that we met are just that....people. They are in the flesh and they will do whatever they deem necessary for them to survive. But remember they aren't the real church(we are, those who want to do the right thing and follow God's will) and remember God does see everything. He has said that anyone who comes against one of his children is in for a beat down of biblical proportions.

Pray, study, vent, yell and ask for a guidance to find a new sanctuary that will help you grow and edify you.

[ZesePreodaNed]

I mentioned in a recent thread about a (married) preacher who was calling me multiple times a day to "talk about church" stuff.

Until yesterday, I had dealt with it by avoidance. I saved his number in my caller ID, and when he called, usually 3 or more times a day, I just didn't answer the phone.

Yesterday afternoon, while I was dealing with my sick mother and juggling phone calls from multiple family members while trying to cook dinner, he called and I answered it before I realized it was him. I told him I couldn't talk, but he said it was urgent that he talk to me. He said he needed me to pray for him. Said it might sound unusual, unconventional, or even unethical, but he needed me to pray for him in person. Alone. Wanted me to lay hands on him and anoint him with oil. Started telling me which body parts he wanted me to anoint. I hung up.

This is a young man; pastor of a large church; I am new there, he barely knows me; I am old enough to be his mother. There is a school at this church, as well. I can only fear how many others he may have had "pray" for him.

I am calling the General Council tomorrow and reporting him. I just hope they believe me.

If anyone has any suggestions on how best to handle this, please let me know.

[ZesePreodaNed]

I am pretty nervous that I wont handle this right, that I will somehow be blamed, that he might try to get revenge. My mind has been racing all night, about all the possible things that could happen. I really just want to turn off my phone and ignore it, but ethically speaking, I feel like I have an obligation to speak up about his behavior. I am scared.

[Kolokireo]

He is looking for someone to prey on, not pray with. Just reading your post makes me feel uneasy for you. Maybe you could get him on speakerphone so someone else can also hear what he's up to; or record his conversation somehow. Years ago, I had a stalker who started his crap with frequent phone calls. Avoiding the phone calls or hurrying off the phone didn't deter him, and it escalated to where several people were threatened and the police were involved. Not trying to scare you, but I hope you will let others know what he's up to. You decide who and how you tell, but LET SOMEONE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON!!

[FloareTraurne]

I agree that you need to handle this carefully. They will most certainly turn on you ie "kill the messenger".

tape record it first.

[strongjannabiz]

I'd advise you to let him know he needs to seek help from some male member of the church. Sounds to me like he thinks he can take advantage of your good nature. Are you a fool? You know what is going on. Tell him to stop or you will let the proper people know what he is up to. You do have proof of every call you get on your cell phone. Show him you are a very smart lady that won't be subjected to the dark side.....

[ZesePreodaNed]

Can anyone tell me how to hook up an iphone so that I can record his call, and hear him/talk to him at the same time? I really want to have a recording before I talk to anyone at the General Council.

(I tried to call the General Council this morning, but they were closed. Which was probably a good thing because I don't have proof other than what will show up on my cell phone bill - that he called me often.) I'm thinking that the only calls that will show up are the ones where either I answered, or he left a message. If he hung up before the ans. machine came on, I don't think it will show up on my bill. Even so, there should be a substantial number of calls shown there.

He called 4 times today and left 2 messages. I haven't listened to them - haven't had the stomach.

I am worried that they will want to "kill the messenger."

[FloareTraurne]

Even those who want to help you will appreciate having a recording. It will be hard to ignore it if they can hear it for themself.

I would do nothing without a recording. And then, you really don't have to say much---you can just say "I think this is something you may want to hear" or "I'm not sure what to make of this but you may want to hear this for yourself". And then just sit back... let them draw their own conclusions.

When they ask if he has called before then you can show them the phone log.
Keep copies of the tape though--do not give them your only copy.

Gees...I have been so burned that I think of all these things.

[cigsstorenick]

Jesus WTF is up with these preachers? IDK what to tell you, but he seems like a sexual predator. I guess he had bedded a few women from his flock. If he is so Brazen he seems to have no fear of being discovered or even rebuked.

I agree with the others...get it on tape..something...anything. Sadly those who claim to be the most religious are often the most intolerant(no offense to present company on the forum)so it will be real easy for other church members to not beleive you at your word, being new and all. So get what proof you need and crucify his arse(no pun intended)

[ZesePreodaNed]

Will they think it strange when I want the pastor of the next church to take a polygraph test?

Can anyone tell me how to hook things up to do the recording from my cell phone?

[FloareTraurne]

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[FloareTraurne]

No it is NOT you! Do the other men around you know that you are separated from you husband? If so, then that is all it takes. Seriously, ever since my husband has left the house I have been thinking that I must be wearing a sign that says "single woman".

I am shocked at the number of married men that now take notice of me--men that were always just cool and polite. Some are just more friendly, talking to me now, standing closer. I swear it must be a basic animal instinct---the bull in my pasture is gone so the other bulls start coming around just to check things out! Others just down right flirt--especially those for whom it is totally safe---like they are having fun or something! They never talked with me like that before or joked the way they do now! I swear they seem to get turned on because my husband is out of the house and I'm seen as fair game now in their mind. I am sure there are those that would like to at least fantasize about running around on their wife!!

I've decided that men are just animals (no offense meant here) but those who flirt I think are just acting instinctively and may not even realize how obvious they are being---those who act on it are just pigs.

Heck, I've even had men stop by to see if I need to hire someone to do the yard--I want to ask "do I have a sign in my front yard that says "husband left, wife needs a man" or something??? That's a small town for you....

[cigsstorenick]

There is nothing wrong with you.....Man's most basic instinct is to acquire, whether it be food,or feathers in their cap. Men have that "Machismo Factor" in that they constantly need to prove to themselves that they still have "it".

I just really have issues with currently with supposed "men of the cloth" and their blatant disregard for everything they claim to hold sacred.

No offense taken to the "men are animals" statement. Because basically its true

[Kolokireo]

It is not about you or anything you say, or do, or how you dress, etc. This is a man who is behaving in a very predatory way. Chances are, he has done this many, many times, with many, many women. He is icky and needs to be exposed- keeping quiet about losers like him keeps losers like him doing what they do. It's how so much sick sh*t happens in churches and everywhere else. Just make sure you get it on tape. I'm sorry you're having to deal with this crap; I've been there too and it's scary and annoying. Take care.

[ZesePreodaNed]

He's called 5 times today, and it isn't even 2 pm

Can anyone please tell me how to hook up my phone to a tape recorder or to my computer so that I can record the conversation while hearing what he is saying. I don't want to put it on speakerphone, or he might get suspicious and not say anything.

[cigsstorenick]

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[cigsstorenick]

How would you like to be Tiger Woods' wife tonight. Now that this crap came out the last couple of hours about the events planner Tiger was allegedly screwing.

Poor wife of his...she probably took that Club to Tiger after she found out he was putting his ball in that skanks cup

[ZesePreodaNed]

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