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**Rtebydou** · 01-05-2009, 08:12 AM

From what I gather, this sounds like a man who had lost just about everything dear to him and just snapped. Figured he'd take it out at the royal family. Today's the kind of day you know you can get close to them, and it doesn't seem like he was bothered much with what would happen afterwards.

A bit like the Iraqi shoethrower, perhaps: a lot of resentment is built up, he needs an outlet, an opportunity presents itself and he takes it.

The whole thing is terrible, unbelievable. Watching that car go by and those people slide by, it makes me feel the same way I felt when I saw the second plane hit on 9/11. It's something you just can't fully grasp, the why's and how's. A tough day for everyone.

**QysnZWB4** · 01-05-2009, 08:58 AM

From what I gather, this sounds like a man who had lost just about everything dear to him and just snapped. Figured he'd take it out at the royal family. Today's the kind of day you know you can get close to them, and it doesn't seem like he was bothered much with what would happen afterwards.

You say it as if we should feel sympathy for the *******. You can hype it up all you want, but he is a cold blooded murderer. Because of his in ability to deal with his problems, he destroyed the lives of several other families.

A bit like the Iraqi shoethrower, perhaps: a lot of resentment is built up, he needs an outlet, an opportunity presents itself and he takes it.

The shoe thrower was able to make a point without destroying INNOCENT people's lives. Stop trying to defend this *******..

The whole thing is terrible, unbelievable. Watching that car go by and those people slide by, it makes me feel the same way I felt when I saw the second plane hit on 9/11. It's something you just can't fully grasp, the why's and how's. A tough day for everyone.

It is a tough day for the people killed and hurt. Hopefully it will be an even worse life for the moron driving the car.

**Jellowstrom** · 01-05-2009, 09:02 AM

In many other countries they get one like this every week and it's filled with explosives as well.

Really sad occurrences.

**8Zgkdeee** · 01-05-2009, 09:41 AM

What a coward. Society needs to start torturing these asshats. We are too soft.

**searkibia** · 01-05-2009, 04:17 PM

I am with DM on this, BTW he died last night (the one that caused this drama) [thumbdown][no]
Damn i feel very pissed at the moment [cursing]

To easy out again.......

**funnyPasds** · 01-05-2009, 05:33 PM

I am with DM on this, BTW he died last night (the one that caused this drama) [thumbdown][no]
Damn i feel very pissed at the moment [cursing]

To easy out again.......

Its like the people that decide to kill themselves by jumping infront of a train. Fine - you want to top yourself - just don't inconvienence / injure the rest of us in the proces...

Sadly in this case I guess we'll never find out WHY he did what he did.

**JTS_tv** · 01-05-2009, 05:41 PM

Sadly in this case I guess we'll never find out WHY he did what he did.

Why not?

**Serereids** · 01-05-2009, 05:48 PM

Why not?

Because it's going to be hard getting it out of him, you know, being dead and all

**JTS_tv** · 01-05-2009, 05:54 PM

Because it's going to be hard getting it out of him, you know, being dead and all

Last I heard he was alive. Has he died since yesterday?

**searkibia** · 01-05-2009, 05:59 PM

I am with DM on this, BTW he died last night (the one that caused this drama) [thumbdown][no]
Damn i feel very pissed at the moment [cursing]

To easy out again.......

Last I heard he was alive. Has he died since yesterday?

yesterday in the hospital he was clinical dead, last night he died...
makes me wonder where he got the strength from to say what he said to those policeman

**movlabz** · 01-05-2009, 07:38 PM

Clearly this is down to this guy playing too many video games.[surrender]

**sStevenRitziI** · 01-05-2009, 07:47 PM

Surprised at the car he used... I'm not sure what he was expecting to accomplish with a Suzuki Swift if he had managed to hit the bus.

**Fegasderty** · 01-05-2009, 08:29 PM

I don't normally advocate the death penalty, I am in fact completely against it. But if anyone deserved to die, it would be this guy. What a waste, the guy plowed through a crowd and killed 5(?) people to do what, give the Queen whiplash? This is one of those things that just makes me mad enough to spit.

**Rtebydou** · 01-05-2009, 09:09 PM

You say it as if we should feel sympathy for the *******. You can hype it up all you want, but he is a cold blooded murderer. Because of his in ability to deal with his problems, he destroyed the lives of several other families.

I don't believe he's a cold blooded murderer in the sense he just plowed through dozens of people for the kick of it. I'm guessing this was a very broken man. No, that doesn't make it right and that doesn't make it any better. I'm just trying to understand what would drive someone to make a desperate attempt like this, and I think that's a better approach to it than to just call him all sorts of things and be done with it. I understand your reaction and I agree he deserves every bit of resentment - really, I do. But that's just not my main concern.

Likewise, I feel very sad for the people who were the first on the spot to perform CPR / treat injuries / look after the people who were lying on the street. When I see the videos and imagine they're desperately trying to help people who were going to die or were already dead, on a day like Queensday, that just breaks my heart.

**searkibia** · 01-06-2009, 12:11 AM

7 deads ,
policeman didn't make it through

, only 1 person is very critical.. i hope she/he makes it !

**Bugamerka** · 01-06-2009, 01:21 AM

Surprised at the car he used... I'm not sure what he was expecting to accomplish with a Suzuki Swift if he had managed to hit the bus.

Exactly what i thought.. people call in an "attack"..but even if he did hit the bus, it would probably not even hurt the bus..he must have been totally sick in his head.
Horrible thing

**QysnZWB4** · 01-06-2009, 04:37 AM

I don't believe he's a cold blooded murderer in the sense he just plowed through dozens of people for the kick of it.

Funny, beccause that is EXACTLY what he did!

I'm guessing this was a very broken man. No, that doesn't make it right and that doesn't make it any better.

Something we agree on..

I'm just trying to understand what would drive someone to make a desperate attempt like this, and I think that's a better approach to it than to just call him all sorts of things and be done with it. I understand your reaction and I agree he deserves every bit of resentment - really, I do. But that's just not my main concern.

Why should we treat him any better than the scum on our shoes? We all have the freedom to make choices, regardless of how bad our lives are. He chose to kill people in cold blood; people he did not know or care about. He is a vile murderer, no matter how much you want to apologize for him.

Likewise, I feel very sad for the people who were the first on the spot to perform CPR / treat injuries / look after the people who were lying on the street. When I see the videos and imagine they're desperately trying to help people who were going to die or were already dead, on a day like Queensday, that just breaks my heart.

I won't disagree there. It had to have been horrible for the people on the scene, and I hope they are given counseling (should they want it).

**emily** · 04-30-2009, 07:44 PM

April 30th is Queens Day in Holland, a day where the Queen and Royal family visit a town or city to meet the local people, participates in little games that are set up.. etc.. It's a national holiday for all. Always a fun day, untill now.

See some footage here:

http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel..._apeldoorn.xml

WTF![cursing][no]

-edit- SHOCKING!
http://www.geenstijl.nl/archives/images/ANP-9693484.jpg
http://www.geenstijl.nl/archives/images/ANP-9693485.jpg

-edit II -
http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven...ginnnedag.html

**searkibia** · 04-30-2009, 07:48 PM

http://www.rtl.nl/(ord=1241090353208...n.xml/1500.wvx
not seen on TV ...BTW def NSFW !!!!

On CNN as well...........

**emily** · 04-30-2009, 07:50 PM

I just woke up as I been playing a game untill deep in the night. WTF man? This is soo sad!

[no]

-edit- SNW your link isn't working.-/edit-

01-05-2009, 08:12 AM	#1
Rtebydou Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 469 Senior Member	From what I gather, this sounds like a man who had lost just about everything dear to him and just snapped. Figured he'd take it out at the royal family. Today's the kind of day you know you can get close to them, and it doesn't seem like he was bothered much with what would happen afterwards. A bit like the Iraqi shoethrower, perhaps: a lot of resentment is built up, he needs an outlet, an opportunity presents itself and he takes it. The whole thing is terrible, unbelievable. Watching that car go by and those people slide by, it makes me feel the same way I felt when I saw the second plane hit on 9/11. It's something you just can't fully grasp, the why's and how's. A tough day for everyone. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-05-2009, 08:58 AM	#2
QysnZWB4 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	From what I gather, this sounds like a man who had lost just about everything dear to him and just snapped. Figured he'd take it out at the royal family. Today's the kind of day you know you can get close to them, and it doesn't seem like he was bothered much with what would happen afterwards. You say it as if we should feel sympathy for the *****. You can hype it up all you want, but he is a cold blooded murderer. Because of his in ability to deal with his problems, he destroyed the lives of several other families. A bit like the Iraqi shoethrower, perhaps: a lot of resentment is built up, he needs an outlet, an opportunity presents itself and he takes it. The shoe thrower was able to make a point without destroying INNOCENT people's lives. Stop trying to defend this *****.. The whole thing is terrible, unbelievable. Watching that car go by and those people slide by, it makes me feel the same way I felt when I saw the second plane hit on 9/11. It's something you just can't fully grasp, the why's and how's. A tough day for everyone. It is a tough day for the people killed and hurt. Hopefully it will be an even worse life for the moron driving the car. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-05-2009, 09:02 AM	#3
Jellowstrom Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 564 Senior Member	In many other countries they get one like this every week and it's filled with explosives as well. Really sad occurrences. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-05-2009, 09:41 AM	#4
8Zgkdeee Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	What a coward. Society needs to start torturing these asshats. We are too soft. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-05-2009, 04:17 PM	#5
searkibia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 554 Senior Member	I am with DM on this, BTW he died last night (the one that caused this drama) [thumbdown][no] Damn i feel very pissed at the moment [cursing] To easy out again....... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-05-2009, 05:33 PM	#6
funnyPasds Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 425 Senior Member	I am with DM on this, BTW he died last night (the one that caused this drama) [thumbdown][no] Damn i feel very pissed at the moment [cursing] To easy out again....... Its like the people that decide to kill themselves by jumping infront of a train. Fine - you want to top yourself - just don't inconvienence / injure the rest of us in the proces... Sadly in this case I guess we'll never find out WHY he did what he did. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-05-2009, 05:41 PM	#7
JTS_tv Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 572 Senior Member	Sadly in this case I guess we'll never find out WHY he did what he did. Why not? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-05-2009, 05:48 PM	#8
Serereids Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 423 Senior Member	Why not? Because it's going to be hard getting it out of him, you know, being dead and all Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-05-2009, 05:54 PM	#9
JTS_tv Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 572 Senior Member	Because it's going to be hard getting it out of him, you know, being dead and all Last I heard he was alive. Has he died since yesterday? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-05-2009, 05:59 PM	#10
searkibia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 554 Senior Member	I am with DM on this, BTW he died last night (the one that caused this drama) [thumbdown][no] Damn i feel very pissed at the moment [cursing] To easy out again....... Last I heard he was alive. Has he died since yesterday? yesterday in the hospital he was clinical dead, last night he died... makes me wonder where he got the strength from to say what he said to those policeman Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-05-2009, 07:38 PM	#11
movlabz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 407 Senior Member	Clearly this is down to this guy playing too many video games.[surrender] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-05-2009, 07:47 PM	#12
sStevenRitziI Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 391 Senior Member	Surprised at the car he used... I'm not sure what he was expecting to accomplish with a Suzuki Swift if he had managed to hit the bus. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-05-2009, 08:29 PM	#13
Fegasderty Join Date Mar 2008 Posts 5,023 Senior Member	I don't normally advocate the death penalty, I am in fact completely against it. But if anyone deserved to die, it would be this guy. What a waste, the guy plowed through a crowd and killed 5(?) people to do what, give the Queen whiplash? This is one of those things that just makes me mad enough to spit. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-05-2009, 09:09 PM	#14
Rtebydou Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 469 Senior Member	You say it as if we should feel sympathy for the ******. You can hype it up all you want, but he is a cold blooded murderer. Because of his in ability to deal with his problems, he destroyed the lives of several other families. I don't believe he's a cold blooded murderer in the sense he just plowed through dozens of people for the kick of it. I'm guessing this was a very broken man. No, that doesn't make it right* and that doesn't make it any better. I'm just trying to understand what would drive someone to make a desperate attempt like this, and I think that's a better approach to it than to just call him all sorts of things and be done with it. I understand your reaction and I agree he deserves every bit of resentment - really, I do. But that's just not my main concern. Likewise, I feel very sad for the people who were the first on the spot to perform CPR / treat injuries / look after the people who were lying on the street. When I see the videos and imagine they're desperately trying to help people who were going to die or were already dead, on a day like Queensday, that just breaks my heart. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-06-2009, 12:11 AM	#15
searkibia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 554 Senior Member	7 deads , policeman didn't make it through , only 1 person is very critical.. i hope she/he makes it ! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-06-2009, 01:21 AM	#16
Bugamerka Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 400 Senior Member	Surprised at the car he used... I'm not sure what he was expecting to accomplish with a Suzuki Swift if he had managed to hit the bus. Exactly what i thought.. people call in an "attack"..but even if he did hit the bus, it would probably not even hurt the bus..he must have been totally sick in his head. Horrible thing Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-06-2009, 04:37 AM	#17
QysnZWB4 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	I don't believe he's a cold blooded murderer in the sense he just plowed through dozens of people for the kick of it. Funny, beccause that is EXACTLY what he did! I'm guessing this was a very broken man. No, that doesn't make it right and that doesn't make it any better. Something we agree on.. I'm just trying to understand what would drive someone to make a desperate attempt like this, and I think that's a better approach to it than to just call him all sorts of things and be done with it. I understand your reaction and I agree he deserves every bit of resentment - really, I do. But that's just not my main concern. Why should we treat him any better than the scum on our shoes? We all have the freedom to make choices, regardless of how bad our lives are. He chose to kill people in cold blood; people he did not know or care about. He is a vile murderer, no matter how much you want to apologize for him. Likewise, I feel very sad for the people who were the first on the spot to perform CPR / treat injuries / look after the people who were lying on the street. When I see the videos and imagine they're desperately trying to help people who were going to die or were already dead, on a day like Queensday, that just breaks my heart. I won't disagree there. It had to have been horrible for the people on the scene, and I hope they are given counseling (should they want it). Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-30-2009, 07:44 PM	#18
emily Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 428 Senior Member	Car drives through crowd during Queens day. April 30th is Queens Day in Holland, a day where the Queen and Royal family visit a town or city to meet the local people, participates in little games that are set up.. etc.. It's a national holiday for all. Always a fun day, untill now. See some footage here: http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel..._apeldoorn.xml WTF![cursing][no] -edit- SHOCKING! http://www.geenstijl.nl/archives/images/ANP-9693484.jpg http://www.geenstijl.nl/archives/images/ANP-9693485.jpg -edit II - http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven...ginnnedag.html Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-30-2009, 07:48 PM	#19
searkibia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 554 Senior Member	http://www.rtl.nl/(ord=1241090353208...n.xml/1500.wvx not seen on TV ...BTW def NSFW !!!! On CNN as well........... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-30-2009, 07:50 PM	#20
emily Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 428 Senior Member	I just woke up as I been playing a game untill deep in the night. WTF man? This is soo sad! [no] -edit- SNW your link isn't working.-/edit- Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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