[illignocearia]

This is not even a little bit surprising.

[cheapphenonline]

It's like ****ing homeopathic medicine.

[HondasMenFox]

oh really? Pleas elaborate.

[leangarance]

The article said something about him having undeclared connections with lawyers hoping to sue vaccine makers for damages.

[teewHettive]

Wakefield should be locked up for crimes against medicine and science, the scumbag. I'd be interested to know what his actual motives were. (I didn't see the video clip btw)

Perhaps he wanted pieces of paper, with Mrs Windsor's picture on them?

[sasquatch999]

I'll grant you that, but not by much.

I won't: not taking vaccines can hurt other people and not just yourself.

[sbrpkkl]

sigh

The majority of vaccines are given to kids. Kids have no say in whether or not they get to take vaccines, and most would just go along with what their parents told them to do even if they did. If their parents are nuts and think vaccines are dangerous, the kids are the ones who are going to suffer.

[kHy87gPC]

Maybe they should have taken the vaccine themselves instead of depending on herd immunity then.

I feel sorry for you.

[mr.memo]

Some ideas are just too crazy, even for Polytubbies.


Ned.

[CathBraunn]

Thimerosal is a mercury-based preservative in some vaccines (like H1N1). It's still perfectly acceptable in dosage.

These things are fine for people, just hurt in high exposures. Much higher than the amount in the vaccines.

[Teareerah]

But I was taking H1N1 vaccines hourly (eg. whenever the next scare story on the news ran)... will I be ok?

[bellson]

Is there a mercury vaccine I can take so that the mercury in the vaccines won't affect me?

[emorbimefed]

Thimerosal is a mercury-based preservative in some vaccines (like H1N1). It's still perfectly acceptable in dosage.

These things are fine for people, just hurt in high exposures. Much higher than the amount in the vaccines.

There was a time when there were physician recommended brands of tobacco.

You might understand why some people may not accept authority as gospel.

Why not make varients of vaccines without mercury at all?

[KraskiNetu]

There was a time when there were physician recommended brands of tobacco.

You might understand why some people may not accept authority as gospel.

Why not make varients of vaccines without mercury at all?

As has been said, thiomersal is a very effective antiseptic. It was, and is still, used to prevent bacterial growth in various products (including eye drops at one time) where sterility is critically important. Because of its effectiveness, it is used at concentrations that are believed to be non-toxic to humans. The use of thiomersal allows some vaccines to be non-refrigerated, which is critically important in countries that have no refrigeration. In addition, thiomersal allows "multi-dose" batches of vaccine to be safely prepared and used with considerable cost saving. Again, an important feature for vaccine programs in third world countries. Therefore, it can be argued from a public health standpoint that the inclusion of thiomersal in vaccine formulations has been critically important and completely justified. OTOH, we no longer need to include thiomersal in any vaccine used in the developed world and its use has been phased out from all (I believe) pediatric vaccines and many adult vaccines used in the USA and Europe. It's unclear to me why it remains in any vaccines in use here, I dont see the point except to reduce vaccine manufacturers liability in the case of a contamination.

The question is whether thiomersal could contribute to autism and other neurological conditions? As a scientist, I would have to say yes, there is a possibility. Mercury is a superbly potent neurotoxin. Given that a potential mechanism of action obviously exists, it is ridiculous for me to give any other answer and it is an example of medical arrogance to believe otherwise. That's not to say, that we should do anything to reduce the use of vaccines IMO. As a pediatrician, Guy is justifiably incensed over the stupidity of parents not vaccinating their children against life threatening diseases that are easily preventable. That doesnt mean, however, that there may not be subgroups of people who have increased sensitivity and susceptibility to the neuro-toxic effects of thiomersal (possibly) under specific conditions. If they exist, we need to identify them and the conditions.

[corriffuniee]

It must be difficult for you lacking the ability to reason. As bad as Hera.

[18holesin]

As has been said, thiomersal is a very effective antiseptic. It was, and is still, used to prevent bacterial growth in various products (including eye drops at one time) where sterility is critically important. Because of its effectiveness, it is used at concentrations that are believed to be non-toxic to humans. The use of thiomersal allows some vaccines to be non-refrigerated, which is critically important in countries that have no refrigeration. In addition, thiomersal allows "multi-dose" batches of vaccine to be safely prepared and used with considerable cost saving. Again, an important feature for vaccine programs in third world countries. Therefore, it can be argued from a public health standpoint that the inclusion of thiomersal in vaccine formulations has been critically important and completely justified. OTOH, we no longer need to include thiomersal in any vaccine used in the developed world and its use has been phased out from all (I believe) pediatric vaccines and many adult vaccines used in the USA and Europe. It's unclear to me why it remains in any vaccines in use here, I dont see the point except to reduce vaccine manufacturers liability in the case of a contamination.

The question is whether thiomersal could contribute to autism and other neurological conditions? As a scientist, I would have to say yes, there is a possibility. Mercury is a superbly potent neurotoxin. Given that a potential mechanism of action obviously exists, it is ridiculous for me to give any other answer and it is an example of medical arrogance to believe otherwise. That's not to say, that we should do anything to reduce the use of vaccines IMO. As a pediatrician, Guy is justifiably incensed over the stupidity of parents not vaccinating their children against life threatening diseases that are easily preventable. That doesnt mean, however, that there may not be subgroups of people who have increased sensitivity and susceptibility to the neuro-toxic effects of thiomersal (possibly) under specific conditions. If they exist, we need to identify them and the conditions.

I'm thrilled to know that, as a scientist, you have reason to believe it's possible for thiomersal to cause autism. Even more, I'm thrilled you know that autism is caused by some kind of foreign biological agent altogether.

You ought to share these findings with the rest of the world. We're all clueless, apparentlty.

[Payodcapy542fro]

Now we need another climate change thread.

[Dogxzysl]

It's absurd to declare anything impossible, depending how you look at it. When there's absolutely no indication whatsoever for it to be the case, it's absurd to say anything other than that.

[WapSaibian]

Guy, for every Jenny McCarthy there are a dozen level-headed reasonable people who don't crap their pants at the most trivial of horror stories.

Yeah, but they don't end up on Oprah

[RaicickKida]

I'll stop badmouthing her if she gives me a car.

But it has to be a nice car.