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Old 06-21-2010, 07:57 AM   #1
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Okay, golf trip in a week. Here are my goals.

1. Retire the 3 and 4 iron. I can't hit them, so I am just gonna stop trying. Going to replace with a 3h
2. Keep even tempo. I am so bad about this on a course. on the range I am fine, but the second I get on the fairway I let my rythem go to hell. I get out of my backswing way too fast, catch it either really fat or really thin, or I hook or slice, or any number of other things that would make an instructor clutch their side in pain. So, nice... even... tempo...
3. Dont try to hurt the ball off the tee. I am a teenager, so it is a natural instinct to wan't to wail on the ball. I just have to swing with about the same force as I do a midiron, and the ball flies further and straighter.
4. Pre-shot routine. I am bad about rushing to the tee and just taking a swipe at the ball. I will go through a simple pre-shot routine before my shots.
5. Observe. I will take notes on the way to the next hole. GIR's, fairways hit, total putts, all of this must be recorded.
6. Analysis. I must study above notes after round. I will probably post statistics on this thread for your insight, if you wouldn't mind offering it, and look to see where I am struggling te most, and what I can do to improve it.
7. Course upkeep. I have to admit, I am bad on this. I realize that care for the course is an essential part of the enjoyment of the game because it not only leaves the course in beter condition for me, but for my fellow players. Now that I know how to properly repair ball marks, I will buy a divot tool and repair not only my own, but I will teach my partner, who is new to the game, how to do it also. I got him into the game, and I was negligent in teaching him course care, which should have been the first thing I told him about.

I think that if I follow these goals, I will post somewhere just above 100. I am striking the ball with much more confidence now. I am driving better tan I ever have in my life, I practice wedge play for an hour a day, and have expanded my short game repetiore to include a variety of 'situational' shots, because I manage to find some interesting lies. I also have found a golf ball that seems to fit my playing style very well, and I believe it has helped me improve both distance off the irons as well as feel around the greens. In other words, I have a better chance of breaking 100 now than I ever have. Wish me luck guys, and I would appreciate any tips before I go.
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:26 AM   #2
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Okay, golf trip in a week. Here are my goals.

1. Retire the 3 and 4 iron. I can't hit them, so I am just gonna stop trying. Going to replace with a 3h
2. Keep even tempo. I am so bad about this on a course. on the range I am fine, but the second I get on the fairway I let my rythem go to hell. I get out of my backswing way too fast, catch it either really fat or really thin, or I hook or slice, or any number of other things that would make an instructor clutch their side in pain. So, nice... even... tempo...
3. Dont try to hurt the ball off the tee. I am a teenager, so it is a natural instinct to wan't to wail on the ball. I just have to swing with about the same force as I do a midiron, and the ball flies further and straighter.
4. Pre-shot routine. I am bad about rushing to the tee and just taking a swipe at the ball. I will go through a simple pre-shot routine before my shots.
5. Observe. I will take notes on the way to the next hole. GIR's, fairways hit, total putts, all of this must be recorded.
6. Analysis. I must study above notes after round. I will probably post statistics on this thread for your insight, if you wouldn't mind offering it, and look to see where I am struggling te most, and what I can do to improve it.
7. Course upkeep. I have to admit, I am bad on this. I realize that care for the course is an essential part of the enjoyment of the game because it not only leaves the course in beter condition for me, but for my fellow players. Now that I know how to properly repair ball marks, I will buy a divot tool and repair not only my own, but I will teach my partner, who is new to the game, how to do it also. I got him into the game, and I was negligent in teaching him course care, which should have been the first thing I told him about.

I think that if I follow these goals, I will post somewhere just above 100. I am striking the ball with much more confidence now. I am driving better tan I ever have in my life, I practice wedge play for an hour a day, and have expanded my short game repetiore to include a variety over 'situational' shots, because I manage to find some interesting lies. I also have found a golf ball that seems to fit my playing style very well, and I believe it has helped me improve both distance off the irons as well as feel around the greens. In other words, I have a better chance of breaking 100 now than I ever have. Wish me luck guys, and I would appreciate any tips before I go.
Really good points to concentrate on. I agree with you wholeheartedly that bad tempo and trying to kill the ball is the death of many a tee shot. And a repeatable preshot routine gets your mind and body in a good place to perform.

Also agree that all but the best golfers should never hit a 3 iron, and 4 irons aren't much better. I myself have replaced those clubs with hybrids and it was probably the best equipment decision I ever made. As we speak, I'm thinking of ditching my 5iron for a 3rd hybrid too, they are that much easier to hit for me.

Good luck with your round this week, but don't be frustrated if the score doesn't match your expectations... it may take some time.
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:43 AM   #3
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Really good points to concentrate on. I agree with you wholeheartedly that bad tempo and trying to kill the ball is the death of many a tee shot. And a repeatable preshot routine gets your mind and body in a good place to perform.

Also agree that all but the best golfers should never hit a 3 iron, and 4 irons aren't much better. I myself have replaced those clubs with hybrids and it was probably the best equipment decision I ever made. As we speak, I'm thinking of ditching my 5iron for a 3rd hybrid too, they are that much easier to hit for me.

Good luck with your round this week, but don't be frustrated if the score doesn't match your expectations... it may take some time.
I learned long ago that this game doesn't give a dang what your expectations are, so I am not going to be surprised if I post 150. I believe I am playing well enough to break 100, but I fully accept that I prolly wont
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:07 PM   #4
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I wouldn't add any technical advice at the moment. I'll just say - relax and enjoy it. Don't fill your head with thoughts during a swing. Have a clear image of the shot you want before you step up to the ball, and trust the swing you've got to pull it off. Swing thoughts are for the practice ground, they'll only clutter up your head and cause frustration during the round.
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Old 06-21-2010, 02:27 PM   #5
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great advice paulo, relax and enjoy and have some fun out there!
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Old 06-21-2010, 04:40 PM   #6
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Best advice anybody can give is: Don't overthink your game and have some fun.

One other thing that has helped me (and isn't a swing thought) is to pick a very small target and aim for it. When you are doing your pre-shot routine, pick the spot, look at it and see it in your head, and let the club put the ball there. You will be surprised how many times it actually works.

Also, keep in mind that you don't have to spend a ton of money to get a new shaft in your driver. Yes, some of them are expensive, but there shafts out there that shouldn't be too much.
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Old 06-21-2010, 04:55 PM   #7
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I wouldn't add any technical advice at the moment. I'll just say - relax and enjoy it. Don't fill your head with thoughts during a swing. Have a clear image of the shot you want before you step up to the ball, and trust the swing you've got to pull it off. Swing thoughts are for the practice ground, they'll only clutter up your head and cause frustration during the round.
Paulo you have hit the nail on the head!!!!! I have been through a six lesson package recently and I have just about runied my swing completed by thinking too much. From NOW on I promise myself to just relax and hit the freaking ball hopefull straight, go find it, and hit it again. Paralysis by analsys will burn your booty on the golf course!!!!!!!
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Old 06-21-2010, 11:54 PM   #8
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Technical matters can look after themselves if you learn to trust what you do. This book helped me a load and was recommended to me by my pro. It's a worthwhile read - nothing about wrist positions, hip turn et al, just about freeing yourself up to allow yourself to perform and squeeze every ounce out of this agonising but beautiful game. Lots of useful stuff in here.

http://www.amazon.com/Extraordinary-.../dp/039952276X
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Old 06-22-2010, 01:21 AM   #9
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If you have a camera or a camcorder, take it with you to the range and video yourself from the side (facing you) and behind (looking downrange). Post those to Andy, and he should be able to help you a bunch.

Dont have an expectations going into the round. If you score bad on the first few holes you will panic and try to do stupid things. I know, I've done it. Clear your head, swing your swing, dont force a thing.

Hopefully you get that yellow Srixon by the 29th, you wont lose it!
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Old 09-06-2010, 08:20 AM   #10
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Okay, here it goes.

When I was 12 I shot 114. So far, because I didn't get to touch a course for the next four years, that is my best round.

Well I am back. I played one round in the spring, and after two holes I threw away the scorecard. I have developed 1 goal, with five sub-goals.

Primary objective- Break 100

Secondary objectives-

1. Eliminate 30 yard slice off driver. Not an issue with irons.
2. Improve ball-striking
3. Play at least once a month.
4. Improve driver distance by 20 yards by improving impact position.
5. Make more putts.

Chipping and other short game shots for me are actually a non-issue. I have little problems getting the ball to five feet from some VERY dicey positions. Like a blind flop straight up a STEEP hill to about 8 feet. It is the one good part of my game.

I plan on buying new equipmeent for Christmas, and want to improve my game substantially by then.

Any tips to help me achieve these goals is greatlly appreciated.

Thanks.
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Old 09-06-2010, 08:54 AM   #11
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I tell you what straightened out my Driver......I practiced with my 8 iron.

I worked on my swing and tempo with my 8 iron, and tried to use the same relaxed swing with the Driver and BINGO!!! I only hit 5 balls with the Driver a day, and if I hit three good ones I stop before 5. Nothing kills a good swing faster than pounding away at balls with the driver.

The Driver makes you do funky things because we want so bad to hit the ball strong and make it go far, something we usually don't do with all our other clubs. It creates tension, and a poor swing. Stay loose, and take a good fundamental swing, the Driver will quickly begin to straighten out and gain distance. And you won't be working nearly as hard...
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:02 AM   #12
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I tell you what straightened out my Driver......I practiced with my 8 iron.

I worked on my swing and tempo with my 8 iron, and tried to use the same relaxed swing with the Driver and BINGO!!! I only hit 5 balls with the Driver a day, and if I hit three good ones I stop before 5. Nothing kills a good swing faster than pounding away at balls with the driver.

The Driver makes you do funky things because we want so bad to hit the ball strong and make it go far, something we usually don't do with all our other clubs. It creates tension, and a poor swing. Stay loose, and take a good fundamental swing, the Driver will quickly begin to straighten out and gain distance. And you won't be working nearly as hard...
Thanks for the tip.

I will post updates regularly. I will try to save up to go to a golf course over the next few weeks. Ill post detailed info then.
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Old 09-06-2010, 01:35 PM   #13
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As said above, stay loose, tension kills. I was playing yesterday and at 18 a huge hores fly was attacking me. I just had to take a quick swing at the ball without really thinking about it just to get away from that horse fly. Best drive of the day.
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Old 09-06-2010, 02:06 PM   #14
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relax and have fun. best of luck keep us posted!
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Old 09-06-2010, 04:47 PM   #15
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Work on your short game, Junior. If you can't afford to play a lot of rounds, can you get to a course with a big putting green and chip and putt for free?

My Mom would take me to the local muni before she went to work in the morning and I would chip and putt for several hours and she would pick me up on her lunch hour.

Also when I was a kid I used to go to the grounds of an elementary school with a shag bag and three milk crates. I would throw one milk crate as far as I could, walk out to that one and throw the next as far as I could, walk to that one and throw it. I would go back to where I threw the first one and hit one third of my shag bag to each crate. Then I would go and chip the balls I hit at the first one until they were all close to the crate. Then I would chip/pitch those to the second crate, and also chip the balls I had hit at the second crate until two thirds of the balls were around that crate. Repeat that until all the balls were right around the third crate. Then I would throw them back in the original direction and do it all again.

I did this until the cops or the school custodian chased me off the grounds. Eventually they banned the hitting of golf balls there and I would go to a park and do the same thing. I was a skinny boy with a huge slice that couldn't hit the ball out of his own shadow, but I could get up and down like nobody's business. Then I got bigger, got on the golf team, learned to hit the ball much better, and eventually let my short game slide. Which was stupid.

Kevin
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:58 PM   #16
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Work on your short game, Junior. If you can't afford to play a lot of rounds, can you get to a course with a big putting green and chip and putt for free?

My Mom would take me to the local muni before she went to work in the morning and I would chip and putt for several hours and she would pick me up on her lunch hour.

Also when I was a kid I used to go to the grounds of an elementary school with a shag bag and three milk crates. I would throw one milk crate as far as I could, walk out to that one and throw the next as far as I could, walk to that one and throw it. I would go back to where I threw the first one and hit one third of my shag bag to each crate. Then I would go and chip the balls I hit at the first one until they were all close to the crate. Then I would chip/pitch those to the second crate, and also chip the balls I had hit at the second crate until two thirds of the balls were around that crate. Repeat that until all the balls were right around the third crate. Then I would throw them back in the original direction and do it all again.

I did this until the cops or the school custodian chased me off the grounds. Eventually they banned the hitting of golf balls there and I would go to a park and do the same thing. I was a skinny boy with a huge slice that couldn't hit the ball out of his own shadow, but I could get up and down like nobody's business. Then I got bigger, got on the golf team, learned to hit the ball much better, and eventually let my short game slide. Which was stupid.

Kevin
Thanks, esox. I work on my chip and putt whenever I go down to the driving range, but thats 40 miles away. I work various other sort game shots at the house. I need to work my putting and judgement on the greens the most. As I said, the wedges are te clubs I am most comfortable with, though they have to be replaced. They are so short I cant use them for any ting more than a half shot!

Well, I hit the Driver today in the park. I was there for 2 1/2 hours and hit around 20 balls. Sucks when you gotta go find them.
I was averaging 200 yards of carry. No idea how much roll, the ball plugged into the soft mud (it rained this morning.) I hit two that I would consider perfect (for me). Then I lost my head. I started, like te idiot I am, trying to rip them out over te baseball fields( about 275). Didnt go well. I slapped myself around a bit, and then hit two more good ones. I had 4 that I liked(dead straight, low-mid ball flight), 12 I could accept (about a 20 yard slice, low to mid flight, or a low draw, about ten yards of curve), and four that I couldnt stand to watch (high pop ups into the trees) I also hit one that would have gone about 230 or 240, save for a lowhanging branch and a slight fade.

These were with five dollar wilson maximums. I feel like I can get mor distace out of a better ball, as I have in the past (found a Nike One Platinum in a recycled bag that I could blister)

Any tips on the errant shots, other than dont get a big head?
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:03 AM   #17
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Just got done with todays short game practice. First time in a while I have got out and done a devoted chipping and pitching session. After a few shots to get loose I just let muscle memory take over. Fine tuned my stroke on the pitch shot. Not pretty, but it works.
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:14 AM   #18
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Your dedication is awesome and with enough practice I am sure you will be reaching your goals. I have a lot of the same problems as you so I cannot offer any advice but I do wish you the best of luck reaching your goals
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:18 AM   #19
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Your dedication is awesome and with enough practice I am sure you will be reaching your goals. I have a lot of the same problems as you so I cannot offer any advice but I do wish you the best of luck reaching your goals
Thanks. The niblick working for you?
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:30 AM   #20
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I don't know if it applies but the best tip I ever got was to straighten my right elbow asap on the downswing. Strike that. That was the best advice I listened to. The best advice I got was to find a different sport. Croquet just didn't float my boat. If you ever lost a car in a high stakes game of croquet you'd know what I am talking about.

You truly sound like your on the right track. Best of luck.
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