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Old 06-02-2012, 06:19 PM   #21
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Hello all,
I would like you opinion on this. Should the high school golf coach be getting paid to teach one of his team members? Especially this close to the start of the season. Is that cool?
you said that you are paying anyhow. If another parent wants to pay more, there choice.
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Old 06-02-2012, 06:22 PM   #22
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Interesting discussion topic. I don't have kids so it's not something I have ever had to ponder. Your state rules regarding this stuff is the obvious starting point. How I feel about it personally is, I don't think it's cool. It's human nature if you spend alot of time coaching someone outside of the rest of the group you are going to develope a bond and bias towards them. Even if you are strong enough to fight human nature, there will be the appearence of a bias which is just not good for morale. It sends the message that you can buy the coach.
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Old 06-02-2012, 06:45 PM   #23
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Absolutely NOT cool. It could be seen as an effort to buy a spot on the team and it could be perceived by other parents as needing to pony up and pay for their kid to get lessons as well. It is an obvious conflict of interest.
How is this different from a teacher doing private tutoring in an academic subject? Teacher is paid for private tutoring, why shouldn't the coach be paid for private lessons?
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Old 06-02-2012, 06:49 PM   #24
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How is this different from a teacher doing private tutoring in an academic subject? Teacher is paid for private tutoring, why shouldn't the coach be paid for private lessons?
It is completely different, there are no math tournaments where you are competing with other kids for a spot on a team just to be a participant in the event.
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Old 06-02-2012, 06:56 PM   #25
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It is completely different, there are no math tournaments where you are competing with other kids for a spot on a team just to be a participant in the event.
Well, here they do have academic competitions, but aside from that it could be argued that a student could gain preferential treatment in class if they are being tutored by the teacher.
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Old 06-02-2012, 07:00 PM   #26
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Well, here they do have academic competitions, but aside from that it could be argued that a student could gain preferential treatment in class if they are being tutored by the teacher.
Down here teachers can't be paid to tutor one of their students. If the teacher is offering tutoring to one student, it has to be offered to the other students.
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Old 06-02-2012, 09:35 PM   #27
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you said that you are paying anyhow. If another parent wants to pay more, there choice.
I am not paying anything extra. We all have to pay a sports fee to the school district. My opinion is I don't thinks it's cool at all. When my kid asked the coach to get together with him he said, we can get together a couple weeks before the season starts. I take that as a compliment simply because my kid is decent and getting better and the coach is pretty excieted about him. However, giving paid private lessons to any person on the team is wrong. It also could set an unintended expectation of favor from all the other team members and parents.
If the coach were interested in this sort of opportunity I think he could contact all members saying I will be at the range this day and time to help you all if you can make it.

Thank you all for the thoughts.
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Old 06-02-2012, 10:43 PM   #28
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I am not a professional golfer but was asked to coach the local High School team. After looking into it I couldn't commit the time needed to do a good job so I passed. My sense is that the team has x ammount of practices per week in shich the coach can work with the kids. If the player needs extra time-weekends for example, then I think the pro shpuld be compensated for his time-otherwise he is forgoing paying students. What he should do is give them a student discount. In terms of whether this is a issue for picking the team, I think in golf on the h.s. level you can tell who is shooting par and who can't break 85.
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:13 AM   #29
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How is this different from a teacher doing private tutoring in an academic subject? Teacher is paid for private tutoring, why shouldn't the coach be paid for private lessons?
I never knew of any teachers getting extra pay for helping students in that teacher's own class. If I had charged my students for helping them outside of class, I would have probably been fired (and deserved it.)

If the coach can pick up a few bucks for teaching a player for some team other than his own team, then have at it but don't even thing about charging your own players or students.

Again, it is a very clear conflict of interest. Not only do state high school athletic association rules apply, there are state laws against it, it is wrong in many ways.
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Old 07-02-2012, 06:33 PM   #30
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This is a tough one. I coached wrestling the past 8 years and was very scrappy at it in my day (won multiple individual and team state championships wrestling for a perennial national powerhouse). I used to get asked to attend clinics and camps and I was always compensated for my work. When I decided to coach a team I never accepted a penny for any private work/video sessions in or out of season. During that time I also had another job that paid my bills. In a golfing professionals case- that is his job and the only way he's compensated. They can't afford to live or provide for a family on a high school coaching stipend. I know my coaching salary didn't pay for a seasons worth of gas and food on our many road competitions.
I also wouldn't be afraid of politics or favoritism here because thankfully in a sport like golf the number attached to your name after a 9 hole or 18 hole round does the talking as far as who makes the team. I know I've had many friends who paid for extra instruction in different sports from head or assistant coaches who were going above and beyond outside of the season. The coaches didn't force this on any of them, they were just compensating them for their time and expertise that they could be spending with other athletes. Now if this coach is charging in season or using the team as a money making operation to help himself and not the team then I think you should speak to the athletic director and get it sorted out.
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