[dupratac]

The set TM sent was 3-PW, but I have noticed that the clubs are about 1 longer. I get my old 9I distance with the PW. Also, the 9 and PW are easier for me to aim. The offset in the longer irons is where I am experiencing the most trouble with aim. Bounce is giving me more trouble in the short irons.

I'll have to check the specs to verify,but I don't recall the 09 Burners having a ton of bounce in the short irons,just mid and more so in the long irons.

[Uvgsgssu]

If you needed to flatten out your swing plane are you sure it wasn't because of a difference in the lie of the clubs? I am not sure I would trust the lie without checking it.

I can't get much out of irons with a lot of offset or with too much bounce myself. I need to work through some of this in the near future and see if I can find something better than the MP32s I am hitting. I like the MP62s. Might try the new Wilson irons with extra weight in the toe so it will help prevent that right to left shot I hit from time to time.

[AlexanderPalamayr]

Do you feel the need to flatten your swing plane is due to the longer shafts?



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[connandoilee]

I'll have to check the specs to verify,but I don't recall the 09 Burners having a ton of bounce in the short irons,just mid and more so in the long irons.

You may be right, but they still have more bounce than my other sets. Also, my expectations for short iron accuracy is higher. That could color my judgment.

Do you feel the need to flatten your swing plane is due to the longer shafts?

Hadn't thought of that, but it is certainly possible.

[aaaaaaahabbbby]

You may be right, but they still have more bounce than my other sets. Also, my expectations for short iron accuracy is higher. That could color my judgment.



Hadn't thought of that, but it is certainly possible.

I'll have to check the specs to verify,but I don't recall the 09 Burners having a ton of bounce in the short irons,just mid and more so in the long irons.

"Bounce" that I refer to anyway in SGI and GI irons isn't actually bounce per se, rather the difference in wide sole vs thin sole design...for me it's harder to get the head on the ball though the head doesn't dig as much...I actually like the digging part which might be part of my own issues...the club feels like it "bounces" on turf contact with the GI type irons, though in terms of club design and head angles, it isn't actually "bounce"...that's my take anyway...

[connandoilee]

"Bounce" that I refer to anyway in SGI and GI irons isn't actually bounce per se, rather the difference in wide sole vs thin sole design...for me it's harder to get the head on the ball though the head doesn't dig as much...I actually like the digging part which might be part of my own issues...the club feels like it "bounces" on turf contact with the GI type irons, though in terms of club design and head angles, it isn't actually "bounce"...that's my take anyway...

Technically, it may not be considered bounce, but the rounded sole and rounded leading edge give me a problem. I am accustomed to clubs that you could hack trees down with the leading edge where these want to "glide" across the top of the ground instead of dig furrows. Obviously, TM and most of the other club mfgrs have learned that most golfers have trouble burying the leading edge of the club, so they designed the club to compensate for that. I, on the other hand, always wanted the sharp leading edge so I could slip it under the ball and take a divot on the way out. Learning curve for me.

[aaaaaaahabbbby]

Technically, it may not be considered bounce, but the rounded sole and rounded leading edge give me a problem. I am accustomed to clubs that you could hack trees down with the leading edge where these want to "glide" across the top of the ground instead of dig furrows. Obviously, TM and most of the other club mfgrs have learned that most golfers have trouble burying the leading edge of the club, so they designed the club to compensate for that. I, on the other hand, always wanted the sharp leading edge so I could slip it under the ball and take a divot on the way out. Learning curve for me.

Exactly what I'm talking about and agree 100%...


...my other problem is that looking at the long face it is much harder for me to visualize getting the clubhead on the ball cleanly without the head twisting or getting hung up...couple that with the inability to chop out a divot (like you can with thinner soled irons) and I feel like I'm missing on contact...


You're welcome for the exta swing thoughts...

[connandoilee]

You're welcome for the exta swing thoughts...

Thank you very much!

[Anydayhybeall]

I found the thickness of the soles on my Tour Burners caused me trouble on chips. I had always chipped with a pitching wedge, and found the PW troublesome on those shots. It was fine after a "getting used to it" period with half or full swing shots, but not chipping. I added 48* and 52* Vokeys to my bag and chip with those. I dropped the GW wedge that came with the set, but kept the PW.

Kevin

[connandoilee]

Haven't posted in a few days because business has intervened in my real pursuit of golf perfection.

I hope to get out to the driving range today and work on getting my swing plane and set up better for the new TM's. Having had time to cool down from my embarrassment at my last performance, I am ready to admit to myself that it is me more than the clubs. I am determined to learn how to hit them consistently because of the advantages they can give me. The additional length and the higher spin rate from the new faces can really give me an advantage once I learn to aim them properly.

The shots I do hit well land at the planned distance and check up quickly. That is a worthwhile weapon to have. I have made up my mind to keep at them until I master them period.