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Old 01-13-2012, 09:34 PM   #1
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Default Maximum Number Of Times Tasbih Of Ruku & Sajdah Can Be Recited
I have seen on inter-islam.org that a person can recite the said tasbihs of ruku and sajdah up to 5 times. (Although only sajdah is mentioned, I assume the same applies to Ruku). Anyway, can anybody point me to evidence where it says one can recite the said tasbihs up to 7 times. (By the way, I am Hanafi)
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Old 02-15-2012, 06:59 PM   #2
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I am also curious about this. I've read somewhere that when in sajdah, we are closest to Allah (SWT) and personally, I've felt a strong sense of love when I am in sajdah. That said, I am confused about the number of tasbihs to recite while in ruku.

  • I have read in 3 different sources that ruku has 3,5 or 7 tasbihs;
  • the same 3 sources only indicate to recite the tasbih 3 times while in sajdah (but do not say you can not recite more than 3); and
  • In 1 source (Taleemul Haq), tasbih is required "at least three times each in ruku and sajdah."


I have a 2-part question:

  1. Can I recite more than 3 tasbih while in sajdah? and
  2. Do I have to recite the same number of tasbihs in ruku as I do in sajdah? In other words, can I recite 3 tasbih in ruku and 5 in sajdah or must I recite 3 and 3 or 5 and 5?


I catch myself reciting and wanting to recite the tasbihs slowly to remain in sajdah longer (then I get a head-rush when I stand).
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:52 PM   #3
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I enquirer from a Mufti. There is no maximum number
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Old 02-15-2012, 08:50 PM   #4
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Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 21, Number 223:

Narrated 'Aisha:

Allah's Apostle used to offer eleven Rakat and that was his prayer. He used to prolong the prostration to such an extent that one could recite fifty verses (of the Quran) before he would lift his head. He used to pray two Rakat (Sunna) before the Fajr prayer and then used to lie down on his right side till the call-maker came and informed him about the prayer. This is not a scholarly opinion but I also recite the ruku and sajood tasbih more than 3 times at times, and don't think there's anything wrong with it. In fact, Insha'Allah, it is virtuous to do so.

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Old 02-15-2012, 11:35 PM   #6
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[*]Do I have to recite the same number of tasbihs in ruku as I do in sajdah? In other words, can I recite 3 tasbih in ruku and 5 in sajdah or must I recite 3 and 3 or 5 and 5?
I find myself doing that too .. sometimes I loose count and just remain in sujood for the longest times and sometimes i just read 3 and get back up. I dont know if that is wrong?


There is a hadith about our Prophet (pbuh) was in sujood for the longest time that Hazrat Ayesha (RA) touched his thumb (or hand) and he responded back with a slight squeeze or nudge or something
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:58 AM   #7
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One can also recite some duas from the Quran while in Sajdah and while sitting in between Sajdah. I heard duas are accepeted during Sajdah and while sitting in between Sajdahs.

One of the Maulana mentioned that there are four places where a dua is accpeted in Salah;

1) In Sajdah
2) while sitting in between Sajdah
3) in the last rakah, before makeing Saalam
4) in Witr, after the extra takbeer (after Qunoot)
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I find myself doing that too .. sometimes I loose count and just remain in sujood for the longest times and sometimes i just read 3 and get back up. I dont know if that is wrong?


There is a hadith about our Prophet (pbuh) was in sujood for the longest time that Hazrat Ayesha (RA) touched his thumb (or hand) and he responded back with a slight squeeze or nudge or something
sister, I just read your question here: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ghlight=sajdah I am trying to read through the threads on sajdah/sujood and realize I still have so much to learn!

One can also recite some duas from the Quran while in Sajdah and while sitting in between Sajdah. I heard duas are accepeted during Sajdah and while sitting in between Sajdahs.

One of the Maulana mentioned that there are four places where a dua is accpeted in Salah;

1) In Sajdah
2) while sitting in between Sajdah
3) in the last rakah, before makeing Saalam
4) in Witr, after the extra takbeer (after Qunoot)




This is not a scholarly opinion but I also recite the ruku and sajood tasbih more than 3 times at times, and don't think there's anything wrong with it. In fact, Insha'Allah, it is virtuous to do so.

Allah knows best.



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brothers, your replies are most helpful,
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Old 02-16-2012, 04:06 AM   #9
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sister, I just read your question here: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ghlight=sajdah I am trying to read through the threads on sajdah/sujood and realize I still have so much to learn!
:wasalam:

Me too sis me too. Just remember to read in odd numbers. The way I do this is by reading my normal three and then repitions of twos.

Iv also realised the longer i stayed in sujood and more salahs i read with longer sujoods, the shaitaan really attacks me. My emaan levels always go down. I have to stop and slowly start again. Il get there one day insha'allah
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Old 02-16-2012, 05:06 AM   #10
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:wasalam:
Iv also realised the longer i stayed in sujood and more salahs i read with longer sujoods, the shaitaan really attacks me. My emaan levels always go down. I have to stop and slowly start again. Il get there one day insha'allah
:salaam:

What you mean by the bold above? Hope you don't mind me asking but how does Shaitaan attacks you?
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Old 02-16-2012, 05:22 AM   #11
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well shaitaan or nufs or something .. its hard to explain, but my imaan just goes down. I guess the easiest way to explain it, I take 1 step closer to Allah swt, but I'm set back by 3. Constant battle, but I guess that is life, constant battle with ones nafs.
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Old 02-16-2012, 05:32 AM   #12
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:wasalam:

Me too sis me too. Just remember to read in odd numbers. The way I do this is by reading my normal three and then repitions of twos.

Iv also realised the longer i stayed in sujood and more salahs i read with longer sujoods, the shaitaan really attacks me. My emaan levels always go down. I have to stop and slowly start again. Il get there one day insha'allah
Sister, for the advice. I find my level changes when I don't give salat the respect it deserves - whenever I feel rushed, don't take the time to patiently recite (slowly) and feel the weight of the words, that's when my mind starts to wander to worldly matters and that's when I make mistakes. Those are the times I don't stay in sujood very long. However, when I take my time, reflect on the words and not let repetition take away from the power of each word (I can only do this when I recite slowly and as beautifully as I possibly can) that's when I'm drawn to stay in sujood longer (not forced, just naturally drawn to it). That said, I do find it difficult to do this every time I pray but I am working on perfecting it as much as I possibly can and am never satisfied, always asking for forgiveness. Now... I don't know if this is what you meant, but what I have found is that when I stay in sujood longer and pray calmly, patiently, I find it very difficult to make dua for myself at the end of each prayer I continue to do so for others but not for myself. Instead, I find that once in a while (not every time) I get this overwhelming urge to make dua for things that are particularly important for me (the well-being and direction of my son for instance) but this does not happen always and when it does happen, it is with such force that I cry. In other words, there is an inconsistency there, a constant struggle.

Insha'Allah we'll all get there one day
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Old 02-16-2012, 05:37 AM   #13
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well shaitaan or nufs or something .. its hard to explain, but my imaan just goes down. I guess the easiest way to explain it, I take 1 step closer to Allah swt, but I'm set back by 3. Constant battle, but I guess that is life, constant battle with ones nafs.
Sister, in another post, a brother mentioned a book: Combating the Whisperings-of-Shaytaan. I've downloaded it but haven't read it yet. Perhaps it will be helpful for you? I'll see if I can find the SF link to it and post it here.
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Old 02-16-2012, 05:48 AM   #14
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to those who have posted about this topic in various threads. Here is one such thread: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...%3BYunus+Patel
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:42 AM   #15
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Sister, in another post, a brother mentioned a book: Combating the Whisperings-of-Shaytaan. I've downloaded it but haven't read it yet. Perhaps it will be helpful for you? I'll see if I can find the SF link to it and post it here.


Here you go:

http://yunuspatel.co.za/books-whisperingsofshaitaan.php



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Old 02-16-2012, 09:12 AM   #17
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One can also recite some duas from the Quran while in Sajdah and while sitting in between Sajdah. I heard duas are accepeted during Sajdah and while sitting in between Sajdahs.

One of the Maulana mentioned that there are four places where a dua is accpeted in Salah;

1) In Sajdah
2) while sitting in between Sajdah
3) in the last rakah, before makeing Saalam
4) in Witr, after the extra takbeer (after Qunoot)
Yes this is something I like to practice too . But there are some confusion about what to say . Some have told me it is against Adab to recite any verses of the Quran ( as Dua ) while in sajdah .

Also I have not come across any Dua compilations specifically for the above mentioned positions.

Could some one help us with that please ?

I usually say the Astagfir mostly . Sometime mumble out things in passion which don't make sense to me but I know Allah knows what I want to say. By doing dua in these positions especially sajdah dose it
mean without uttering in your mind ?

I need to know more about this.
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:42 AM   #18
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Yes this is something I like to practice too . But there are some confusion about what to say . Some have told me it is against Adab to recite any verses of the Quran ( as Dua ) while in sajdah .
What? What dua can be better than those in Quran AlKareem? It has dua for all situations, when you are sick, you have dua of Ayub (as), when you are in trouble, you have dua of Yunus (as), when you turn 40 yrs old you have dua that Abu Bkr Sidiq (ra) used to recited, dua for increasing once knowledge etc. Numerous duas that are in Quran can take you through during your good and bad times.

I think during Salah one should make dua only from Quran, and maybe some masnoon dua given by Rasool Allah (saw). But you can't go wrong by asking duas from the Quran.
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What? What dua can be better than those in Quran AlKareem? It has dua for all situations, when you are sick, you have dua of Ayub (as), when you are in trouble, you have dua of Yunus (as), when you turn 40 yrs old you have dua that Abu Bkr Sidiq (ra) used to recited, dua for increasing once knowledge etc. Numerous duas that are in Quran can take you through during your good and bad times.

I think during Salah one should make dua only from Quran, and maybe some masnoon dua given by Rasool Allah (saw). But you can't go wrong by asking duas from the Quran.
This is not a scholarly view its a view by some elders . Their view has its own rational. Note I said in the state of Sajdah . The reason given is the very act of sajdah is lowering yourself before Allah in a state of absolute humbleness and surrender. They say you should only say the Tasbih.

The verses of the quran demands respect as such you should not recite them at that state . There are much more in depth concept here I am not aware of.
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:34 AM   #20
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Bhai I am not a scholar, I already told you before that this is what I heard from a Mufti Sb. Please investigate and let us all know whether this is allowed or not.

JazakAllah Kairun!
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