[SHpuntik]

This.

Our scholars have already pinpointed madudi sahibs tafurudadt, every new effort will not benefit ummah.Secodnly post qazi hussain ahmed the jamat is more titled toward deobandi school of thought.

for example...

[carreraboyracer]

for example...

Example of ?

Deobandiyat in Jamat e islami? they are now more leaned towards ulema, respect scholars and now many jamatis i know are bayt to some shaykh. What else do you want to know?

[carreraboyracer]

This is what I had posted before on the "contributions" of maududi and his jamaat: Making people more progressive /pro modern in approach and go easy on many (visible) aspects of the Sunnah, incline more towards politics at the cost of spirituality, encourage Talfiq and have scant regard for traditional Ulema and Mashaikh [infact they respect only those ulema who are pro-Jammati and dub all others as narrow minded] (which is why I left JI 4 or 5 years back after being with them for 12 years and with various responsibilities!).
One can easily guess what type of a caricature of 'Muslim' they produce!

My advise to the Jammat Islami:
I think the JI would be more successful if it were a purely political party with out any separate religious interpretation and ideology (based on Maududi's writings) and had accepted the Ulema's superiority and guidance instead of competing with the Ulema in the realm of interpretation of the deen . But unfortunately, they now have become just another 'Jamaat' or even a semi-distinct 'Maslak' in itself albeit with political ambitions. The way forward would be to dump the 'Tajdeed' done by Maududi sahab and his comrades in the Islamic interpretations and come back to the mainstream Hanafi school (since indo-Pak is basically Hanafi) and it's approach to deeni interpretations and accept the deeni leadership of traditional Ulema (they can approach a panel of respected Ulema in their countries and implement their recommendations in deeni matters and Tarbiyya of their cadre) and the party should focus on the socio-political front exclusively.

Agreed.

I have booked marked your blog, nice posts there mashallah

[tramadolwithall]

Example of ?

Deobandiyat in Jamat e islami? they are now more leaned towards ulema, respect scholars and now many jamatis i know are bayt to some shaykh. What else do you want to know?

Qazi Sahab even invited Maulana Tariq Jamil for a bayaan in his presence.

[SHpuntik]

Agreed.

I have booked marked your blog, nice posts there mashallah

JazakAllah khair but which blog did you like bhai?
And if you agree with that post then how do you say that the jamat is more titled toward deobandi school of thought. I am confused.

[joulseenjoync]

I have two books before me at the moment…

1.Haq parast Ulema ki Maududiyat se Narazgi ke asbab ( Reasons for disappointment with Maududiyat by Ulema e Haq ) By Shaikh ut Tafseer Hazrat Maulana Ahmed Ali Lahori sahab




2.Maktubaat ba silsila Maududi Jamaat by Hazrat Shaikh ul Islam Maulana Syed Hussain Ahmed Madani sahab



contd..

[Rchzygnc]

Can you please let go your childish rhetoric and tantrums? Please come up some concrete arguments for Maulana Maududi.

As it was mentioned before, he was completely influenced by western thought and his concept of Islamic State was purely based on Communist/Socialist ideals.

Concrete argument for Maulana Maududi? Does that line make any sense? Let me know that what do you consider him , A Kafir , A Fasiq , A dhal Mudhil , or what? Folks like you better care about the mass secularization of Indian Muslims instead of bashing those who have done some efforts for uniting this Ummah and establishing the Deen.

[carreraboyracer]

JazakAllah khair but which blog did you like bhai?
And if you agree with that post then how do you say that the jamat is more titled toward deobandi school of thought. I am confused.

This one
http://tazkiyatips.blogspot.com/

What i meant was that post qazi sahib jamat is now drifitng towards deobandiyat, that was my opinion. .

[Rchzygnc]

You talk about being sectarian and the first word you got is "habashis". How consistent Mr. Holier than thou.

To you its a little issue because Maududis are one of the by products of Salafism. But if you look at the over all fitnah the political islam have done to muslim world then you wouldn't talk about being silent. Their takfiri puritan pseudo islam, stupid notions that diverts energy to complete non-issues and creates delusions, their villification of traditional islam and their part in destroying it, their fake jihad, and populist rhetoric of demagogues will achieve nothing just like they have achieved nothing until now except fitnah. Islam will not be established under their hands or by hands of any such heretical innovated islam.

Your issues are as diverse as your insecurities. Everyone who takes practical steps for Islam is a product of Salafism ? If yes , i am happy for it. Maududi ra did not do the Takfeer of anybody unjustly. Why don't you start a true Jihaad against those who are doing Fake Jihaad? One can easily smell the Habashi inside you and labeling you a habashi is no sectarianism but allocating the right slot to you.

[joulseenjoync]

Now Let’s have brief look at the first one..


The opening words..




After Hamd o salat and quoting the above hadith he says..

" Thus we have concluded that the Qur’an Majeed and Sunnah of Nabi kareem shall be safeguarded till the day of judgement.

I have read in the books of Maududi sahab that he insults some of the the very fundamental usools of Qur’an Majeed and sunnah of Rasulullah . So I have published his slanders in ‘ Nawa e Pakistan’.

It is possible that that Allah gives Taufeeq to Maududi sahab and his followers to get cautioned and repent.. and other muslims be saved from indulging themselves in the fitnah of Maududiyat.Infact this matter was compiled in the Risalah even before publishing in the newspaper."

(Hazrat Maulana) Ahmed Ali afi'anhu ( )


A glimpse at the Contents page..




A note from the Publisher..


"The manner in which the corrupt views of Mohtaram Syed Abul Ala sahab Maududi have been refuted and the deep feeling of sadness and khuloos with which the Risala was written can be only felt after reading it.
But I have to say that after his demise if anyone should question the need for this Risalah then I shall state that the matter is not of his Zaat (personality) but of his Nazariyat (views) and the way they are prevalent these days is not difficult to comprehend."



And Hazrat Lahori further adds the reason for his refutal..



" By Allah..i bear no enimity with Maududi sahab. Whatever I have written about him is due to his opposing of 1350 years of Islam and the insults mounted by him and belittling of its standard bearers. I could not tolerate this ".
contd later insha Allah..

duas..

wa assalam..

[Rchzygnc]

Dr. sahab, this can be said about any personality.
Berelwis may say- Ahmed Reza Khan was a great scholar, he did this, he did that, he is a human and not free from errors, we shouldn't search for his faults etc etc.

Similarly, Moududi saheb's issues can't be ignored saying this type of words.

His visions about establishing Islamic state can be accepted, but what about judging the activities of Sahabah , interpreting Quran from personal understanding?
Repeatedly he was warned by Ulama to correct his activities, but stubbornly he continued what he was doing. Now JI is propagating those materials saying this is Haqq.

Calamities made by him are greater than benefits.

Brother , one can easily distinguish between the individual opinions of scholars which don't mount to taking them out of the circle of Ahle Sunnah and the individual opinions that take mount to taking one out of the circle. In the case of Raza khan it is obvious that whatever he wrote and did was with an ill intention. He did blatant Takfeer of Ulama e Haq , came up with innovations in Aqaid and deemed Jihaad adjourned.

In the case of Maududi ra , his individual opinions are suppressed by his good actions for Islam. One of his individual opinion was quoting from the Tareekh of al Tabari ra in his Khilafat wa malookiat. When he was asked to stay with in the opinions of the scholars of Ahle sunnah while talking about the Sahabas and not to rely on chain-less or weak narrations , he responded back by saying that I would not quote Ibn Taymiyyah or Shah Wali Ullah on this as they are lawyers of Ahle sunnah (so they are biased). It is indeed his mistake and he should not have done that. Especially after he was contacted for correction , he should not have come up with this "they are lawyers" argument.

About his Tafheem ul Quran , I am unaware of any specific issue with it. We know that writing the exegesis of Quran , the scholars comply their own views as well. It can not be that much monolithic when it comes to the exegesis. We have different approaches towards the exegesis of Quran with in Ahle Sunnah.

Other than these two individual opinions , Maududi ra had a vision for establishing Islamic system in Pakistan. He was much depressed with the secularization and modernization that was taking place in Pakistan then. He sincerely tried to come up with a solution. Such efforts are not immune to mistakes and he committed some mistakes. My point is that lets remember his good efforts and his sincerity. Lets gets past his mistakes.

[SHpuntik]

I have two books before me at the moment…

1.Haq parast Ulema ki Maududiyat se Narazgi ke asbab ( Reasons for disappointment with Maududiyat by Ulema e Haq ) By Shaikh ut Tafseer Hazrat Maulana Ahmed Ali Lahori sahab





contd..

free download here- http://islamicwebportal.blogspot.com...li-lahori.html

[joulseenjoync]

Concrete argument for Maulana Maududi? Does that line make any sense? Let me know that what do you consider him , A Kafir , A Fasiq , A dhal Mudhil , or what? Folks like you better care about the mass secularization of Indian Muslims instead of bashing those who have done some efforts for uniting this Ummah and establishing the Deen.

My dear bro Ati..hope ur doing well by the grace of Allah .. there is of course concrete evidence of his deviant veiws that has been refuted in very strong words by the stalwarts of Deoband.. including the ones in bolded parts above.. shall post later Insha Allah.. love u for the sake of Allah ..

duas..

wa assalam..

[joulseenjoync]

Now we shall take up the second book.. and have a look at the parts of Foreword by Hazrat Maulana Syed Muhammed Yousuf Binnori sahab ( shall post the entire foreword at the end)






In my opinion the great fitnah of the present age evolved by Maududi sahab.. his works and movement affirms to the sketch drawn in afore mentioned lines. Augmenting further is the opportunity he had to raise his movement through materialistic means.

The virtues required to criticize such people are mentioned below-

1) Sound and firm in knowledge, he should be well versed with Uloom e Nubuwwat.

2) After gaining the company of the pious one has turned god-fearing imbibed with taqwa that whatever he says is to attain the pleasure of Allah (swt)

3) Whose iman bears religious impetuosity..devotional zeal and enthusiasm.. containing the perfection of Hubb fi’llah and bughz fi’llah that when the need of deen rises.. he doesn’t remain mute.

4) Is predisposed with natural wit.. that with his temperamental genius is able to pluck even subtle blemishes and understand its ill effects.

5) Possesses a heart which due to wielding of truth has the power to withstand slanders and disparagement of the public.

6) Disposed with a natural temper for justice and equity..that even in criticism does not bulge out of equanimity.

In my opinion the bearer of such chaste virtues in his period was Shaikh ul Islam Hazrat Maulana Syed Hussain Ahmed Madani
The above in the course of being sought for replies or when a religious need arose had frequently revealed his concerens.

Among these letters the most descriptive being number 19 which was written to the Ameer of jamaat e Islami janab Maulana Abul lais, which was a very detailed summary on the effects and repercussions contained in the literature of maududi sahab.

And in the letter to Maulana Sibghatullah sahab he explicitly stated:

‘ My opinion of Maududi sahab ..his literature and his jamaat is that he is utterly deviant..and of Dhal (astray) and Mudhil (one who leads astray)..”
Thus Hazrat had through these letters cautioned all his Mukhliseen the detrimental effects these literature posed to the future generations such that the authority of Allah prevails completely and the Haqaiq of Deen e Islam is revealed and that no perplexity remains.

contd..

[joulseenjoync]

Now lets have a glimpse at two of the letters including one mentioned above..



( From a letter containing replies to many queries..the following question regarding Maududi sahab was raised)

Q: For the sake of ..Mulki ..Qaumi.. and Milli welfare.. is it allowed to join or assist in any of legal demands of the foresaid jamat e maududi or totally abstain from them..?

Reply:

(Hazrat Shaikhul Islam )

I have seen a lot of usool and fur’oo of this jamat. This is a deviant and a deviant-maker jamat. If its relation was only with politics then there was no harm. But they have clipped and amputated the essence of deen and the way of Ahle sunnat wal jamat and they did harm a lot.

They are creating a sect in opposition to Ahle sunnat wal jamat.. thus it is necessary to abstain from them.
If they rise up with such a demand from the government that is true and Shar’ee without any doubt for Batil.. then they should be assisted and supported in compliance with the issue.

(interpretation of hadith.. words of wisdom are a hidden treasure of the believer ..he is the righteous owner wherever he may find it..)

But abetment should not be such that it may appear as if joining them and it would gain strength. Only the legal motive should be aided.

(Hazrat Maulana) Hussain Ahmed ( )
Tanda,
3rd Ramadhan, 1371





(Maktub written to Maulana Sibghatulllah sahab Bakhtiyari, Darul irshad, Aleem abad, Raichoti, Zila Kudappah, Madras)

Mohtaram Maqam Zayyad majdakum, Assalam alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa barakaat.

Mizaaj Mubarak. I received your letter in Sha’ban. It was a period of hardly any extra time. Also it was the time I was overcome with some illness. the reply is as follows:

My opinion of Maududi sahab ..his literature and his jamaat is that he is utterly deviant..and of Dhal (astray) and Mudhil (one who leads astray).. the more I have attempted to study his works.. the greater did my beliefs strengthened about him.

If your repentance is true then make an announcement..and publish in newspapers that I believe Maududi sahab and his jamat to be utterly Dhal and Mudhil..and thus I have separated myself from him.muslims should abstain themselves from this jamaat.
Do not get into their trappings.. and follow the Salf e saliheen engaging yourself with the foundations of shariat and Sunnat Nabawiyya ala sahibiha salatu wassalam..
Wa’llahu yaqulul Haqqa wa huwa yahdi’s sabeel. Wassalam.

(Maktub:120,Vol;2,P:347)

(Hazrat Maulana) Hussan Ahmed ()
Deoband, 3rd zilhijja ,1371 Hijri.

END
wa assalam..

[joulseenjoync]

The complete foreword by Hazrat Maulana Muhammed Yousuf Binnori sahab

















END
wa assalam..

[SHpuntik]

My dear bro Ati..hope ur doing well by the grace of Allah .. there is of course concrete evidence of his deviant veiws that has been refuted in very strong words by the stalwarts of Deoband.. including the ones in bolded parts above.. shall post later Insha Allah.. love u for the sake of Allah ..

duas..

wa assalam..

Actually Ulema of all sunni groups- Deobandi, Barelwi, Ahle Hadith, Traditionalist etc have spoken very strongly against the deviations of mr Maududi. So, it's not issue of my sect or your sect. It's Sunni Muslims Vs Maududi!

[Zenthachall]

What are some of his views that are deviant?

[tramadolwithall]

What are some of his views that are deviant?

Some of the views are discussed in the blog linked in the first post.

[gernica]

poor old Maulana Mawdudi

he has been dead for several decades

he made some mistakes in his writings

and these need editing from modern editions of his works

but he also had some valuable insights and did many good things