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natahololll 01-09-2012 07:47 AM

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Salam u alaikum ,

Brother is there an ikhtilaf in this masla ?, because from the ulema e haqq, the likes of Mufti Taqi Usmani d.b and Mufti Abdur Rehman ibn Mangera d.b, Mufti Mohammad ibn adam d.b have given video bayans, knowing very well it is a video bayan, kindly if you can clarify the matter.
السلام عليكم,

Mufti Mohammad ibn Adam follows the opinion of Mufti Taqi Usmani, d.b. (http://spa.qibla.com/issue_view.asp?ID=9334). I do not know about Mufti Abdur Rehman ibn Mangera's d.b. justification. Mufti Taqi Usmani and Mufti Rafi Usmani have written the following two fataawa on the issue, and, to date, every scholar from the 'Ulema e haqq, who appears on video, that I have spoken to refers back to these two fataawa:
http://www.mathabah.org/20100525156/...-a-videos.html
http://www.ilmgate.org/the-legal-sta...-sahih-muslim/

I am a lay person. However, I know how cameras and displays of various types work (LCD, LED, CRT, eInk, etc.). The description of a physical phenomenon in those two fataawa, which is described as "digital pictures", is quite vague but does not seem to be an accurate description of any of the display technologies in use today. Besides that, I think, many other questions would arise in the mind of anyone reading these fataawa and thinking on their implications.

I am in the process of composing a thorough question to be sent to Mufti Rafi Usmani seeking clarification soon.

Besides those two fataawa, I am aware of no other fatwa establishing the permissibility. Besides those scholars who declare it permissible because of Mufti Taqi Usmani and Mufti Rafi Usmani, there is consensus of the 'Ulama of Deoband on impermissibility. If anyone knows of any more detailed, up to date fatwa establishing permissibility, I would be happy to see it.

vSzsgifP 01-09-2012 07:52 AM

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pls reply
http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/salam.gif

You could possibly keep the browser window minimized while the audio plays in the background.
Alternatively, you could convert the video into mp3 using many of the available online conversion sites/softwares.

Wallaahu A'lam.
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MARMELADINA 01-09-2012 09:16 AM

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السلام عليكم,

Mufti Mohammad ibn Adam follows the opinion of Mufti Taqi Usmani, d.b. (http://spa.qibla.com/issue_view.asp?ID=9334). I do not know about Mufti Abdur Rehman ibn Mangera's d.b. justification. Mufti Taqi Usmani and Mufti Rafi Usmani have written the following two fataawa on the issue, and, to date, every scholar from the 'Ulema e haqq, who appears on video, that I have spoken to refers back to these two fataawa:
http://www.mathabah.org/20100525156/...-a-videos.html
http://www.ilmgate.org/the-legal-sta...-sahih-muslim/

I am a lay person. However, I know how cameras and displays of various types work (LCD, LED, CRT, eInk, etc.). The description of a physical phenomenon in those two fataawa, which is described as "digital pictures", is quite vague but does not seem to be an accurate description of any of the display technologies in use today. Besides that, I think, many other questions would arise in the mind of anyone reading these fataawa and thinking on their implications.

I am in the process of composing a thorough question to be sent to Mufti Rafi Usmani seeking clarification soon.

Besides those two fataawa, I am aware of no other fatwa establishing the permissibility. Besides those scholars who declare it permissible because of Mufti Taqi Usmani and Mufti Rafi Usmani, there is consensus of the 'Ulama of Deoband on impermissibility. If anyone knows of any more detailed, up to date fatwa establishing permissibility, I would be happy to see it.
Salam u alaikum Brother,

Shaykh Abdur Raheem Limbada , has many talks which he himself has given on various masail's which can be found on the Hanafi Fiqh channel. From those videos you can see he is not even addressing to a crowd rather he is sitting in front of the camera, and doing an important service to deen. Also there is a video of Shaykh Yusuf Motala, in which along with him Maulana Abdus Salam is translating, and it seems that in that address Ulema are present and the video being recorded is in knowledge of the people present.

Similarly Maulana Ilyas Ghuman, manazir-e-islam, who is also a mureed of Shah Hakeem Akhtar, uses camera to capture how he defeats his opponents and for the service to deen , uses the camera.

Similarly Maulana Syed abul Hasan Ali Nadwi R.A, did interviews specifically for TV channel on his trip to Jordan i believe, the video is posted on youtube.

Maulana Syed Salman Nadwi, has appeared a number of times on Zakir Naiks peace channel conferences to give talks and he also knows very well that his talk is being recorded for a TV channel and i believe he has also praised zakir naik's use of the TV media for the service of deen.

So brother i do understand that Video, TV contains mostly haram , because besides the use of it by the Ulema, everything else mostly contains Shar in it. And it looks like ulema have used this media if they think they have a chance to benefit the audience. But the OP asked , if it is okay to watch Maulana Tariq Jamil's bayan , then based on how so many ulema have themselves used Video for the sevice of deen, then that automatically implies that their efforts can be benefited from using their videos. I am a layman too , i could be severely wrong. Just wanted to share some observations.

Wasalam

LindaSmithXV 01-09-2012 12:19 PM

lol!

You people better don't see you faces in mirrors.

Vomazoono 01-09-2012 02:08 PM

Assalamu alaykum

During Moulana's tableeghi bayan there is no official video recording of the bayan, someone among the crowd records the bayan through the mobile.

When moulana is invited by other groups, even though he dislikes the recording, he keeps quiet.

Andrew1978 01-09-2012 02:16 PM

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Assalamu alaykum

During Moulana's tableeghi bayan there is no official video recording of the bayan, someone among the crowd records the bayan through the mobile.

When moulana is invited by other groups, even though he dislikes the recording, he keeps quiet.
I advice to visit the Message TV channel @ YouTube who are now officially recording Maulana's bayans no matter whether in Pakistan or outside Pakistan.he
Message TV was the one who organized the Sype session with Maulana & updates people on FB & TWTR

iodillalm 01-09-2012 02:16 PM

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The video stuff is an ikhtilaafi masla...!

Tabligh brothers always follow safer side, i have seen no elder of tabligh in any video, if there is any video it maybe someone unknowingly from the croud even maulana tariq jameel sb db doesnt like the videos, our hazrat maulana saad sb db doesnt even like audio recording and forbades from recording or writing his lectures how will he allow video recordings...!

so it is better to listen to audio bayaans of maulana tariq jameel sb db (since it is safer and has no issue)

NerbuitW 01-09-2012 02:27 PM

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I advice to visit the Message TV channel @ YouTube who are now officially recording Maulana's bayans no matter whether in Pakistan or outside Pakistan.he
Message TV was the one who organized the Sype session with Maulana & updates people on FB & TWTR
When moulana is invited by other groups, even though he dislikes the recording, he keeps quiet.

Preegovesem 01-09-2012 02:50 PM

@faizanakram99

i have seen no elder of tabligh in any video, but i have seen

haji Abdul wahab sahab ( D.B )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNBwc0b1ImU

Moulana Ahmed Laat saheb In Nizamuddin Markaz 30102011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew_7zaLvPOo

moredasers 01-09-2012 03:33 PM

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Assalamu alaykum

During Moulana's tableeghi bayan there is no official video recording of the bayan, someone among the crowd records the bayan through the mobile.

When moulana is invited by other groups, even though he dislikes the recording, he keeps quiet.
Don't you think that defeats the purpose ? I am a complete layman . Still I have to say I can't get my mind around the fact why the device or technology use is discouraged ? Even now when its very apparent this will be a part of our lives till the end of times. All future knowledge sharing will be done using variations and improvement of this technology discussed . I can not understand this standing , it goes against rationality and sense .

Seesspoxy 01-09-2012 03:43 PM

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Don't you think that defeats the purpose ? I am a complete layman . Still I have to say I can't get my mind around the fact why the device or technology use is discouraged ? Even now when its very apparent this will be a part of our lives till the end of times. All future knowledge sharing will be done using variations and improvement of this technology discussed . I can not understand this standing , it goes against rationality and sense .
Assalamu alaykum

I request you to spend some time in tableeg jamaath. May be that will help you to understand my view.

deackatera 01-09-2012 04:07 PM

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@faizanakram99



but i have seen

haji Abdul wahab sahab ( D.B )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNBwc0b1ImU

Moulana Ahmed Laat saheb In Nizamuddin Markaz 30102011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew_7zaLvPOo
Both elders avoid it; people take such videos without their permission/without them knowing.

Such videos really shouldn't be spread around. It's a different matter for videos intentionally produced vs. videos of people known to avoid it.

There's a video of Mufti Zarwali sahib somewhere, does that mean he permits it?

wmzeto 01-09-2012 04:08 PM

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Assalamu alaykum

I request you to spend some time in tableeg jamaath. May be that will help you to understand my view.
Lets start the tashkeel. Brothers please give name first for 4 months cash, who is first? Take the sawaab of the entire majmua, be first to give your intention brother, who will it be?

NutChusty 01-09-2012 04:11 PM

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Lets start the tashkeel. Brothers please give name first for 4 months cash, who is first? Take the sawaab of the entire majmua, be first to give your intention brother, who will it be?
Show some lenience to we mazooreen. 3 days cash; insha allah.

MAKEMONEY 01-09-2012 04:13 PM

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@faizanakram99



but i have seen

haji Abdul wahab sahab ( D.B )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNBwc0b1ImU

Moulana Ahmed Laat saheb In Nizamuddin Markaz 30102011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew_7zaLvPOo
http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/salam.gif

i guess these videos are unknowingly recorded,...the elders themselves dont know videos are being taken...!
This is the 1st time i saw Maulana Ahmad Laat Sb DB

Justlovemy 01-09-2012 06:01 PM

When Hazrat maulana zulfiqar sb (d.b) came in melvisharam there was almost more than 50 posters that no photos are allowed and it is haram. Hazratji strictly follows it and alhamdulillah there aren't any picture in the web although he gives many many lectures . Subhanallah this is surely Allah's madad(help) on hazratji

Ekrbcbvh 01-09-2012 06:30 PM

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I know one video of Moulana tariq Jameel Sahab in which he was telling the cameraman "fix the camera and sit down".

Luisabens 01-09-2012 06:51 PM

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I know one video of Moulana tariq Jameel Sahab in which he was telling the cameraman "fix the camera and sit down".
I have attended many sessions, wherein the cameraman stands at a distance in front of the speaker and takes the video and some times he moves the camera to acquire from different angles. Here the cameraman blocks the view of the speaker.

May be the video which you are speaking may be a session organised by others. So moulana has asked the cameraman to focus, fix and leave.

Recently I was in a bayan of a respected scholar. The audience presented there protested against videography. The moulana politely told the cameraman, "this is enough, please leave now". Some times the respected scholars say "you can take the video of the audience, not me". That doesn't mean that respected scholars are for videography.

conurgenceDen 01-09-2012 07:42 PM

dunya chand per pahaunch gaye aur lota he nahe muk raha , hadh hai !

sztc38tg 01-09-2012 07:48 PM

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dunya chand per pahaunch gaye aur lota he nahe muk raha , hadh hai !
Assalamu alaykum

Aaapko Aaapki parwaaz mubarak ho.

Ham zameen per rah kar;

zameen walo ke beech mein rahkar ;

unko samajh kar ;

unki samajh ki mutaabiq kaam karenge.

Hamare haan shortcuts naheen hain.


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