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Old 09-26-2011, 01:29 PM   #1
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Default Advice - I Fainted
Okay so I've been on hcg and marathon training. Yes. I know. I do 3-4 miles twice during the week and a long run on Saturday.

This past Saturday I did 15 miles - and fainted about 20 minutes after I completed my run. I immediately ate some carb food they had on hand and my dizziness went away, but during the day it kept coming back until I ate.

So. Any suggestions? My marathon is November 13th.


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Old 09-26-2011, 01:41 PM   #2
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Buy some Goo (electrolyte carb supplement packets you can consume while you're running) your body needs fuel when you are expending that much energy.
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:55 AM   #3
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Buy some Goo? Are you fucking serious?! You need to get off the VLCD and stop the HCG immediately! Make an appointment with your doctor ASAP, especially with symptoms returning throughout the day. Don't take your health lightly.
Why don't you check your filthy mouth at the door and get a clue! Does anyone know how to express a thought without using offensive language anymore? What is wrong with you?

The lady ran 15 miles on a 500 calorie a day diet... It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on here... Hello? She continued to feel faint until she refueled and ate something substantial. When I was a kid I would spend the entire day at the swimming pool and had so much fun I would forget to eat. I would get dizzy and start to pass out... Eating solves the problem. I didn't need a Doctor to explain that to me, even as a child. If no fuel goes in, you will run out of energy and you stop moving, end of story.

Also by the time of her race on Nov. 13th she should no longer be on a VLCD and eating a well rounded diet, plus a little carb loading and goo throughout the race I am sure she'll do great. She must be in terrific condition, because I doubt I could run too far at all while on VLCD.
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Old 09-27-2011, 12:34 PM   #4
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Okay so I've been on hcg and marathon training. Yes. I know. I do 3-4 miles twice during the week and a long run on Saturday.

This past Saturday I did 15 miles - and fainted about 20 minutes after I completed my run. I immediately ate some carb food they had on hand and my dizziness went away, but during the day it kept coming back until I ate.

So. Any suggestions? My marathon is November 13th.


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If you read Pounds and inches, it specifically says "NO STRANGENESS EXERCISE",while on VLCD.
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Old 09-27-2011, 12:42 PM   #5
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If you read Pounds and inches, it specifically says "NO STRANGENESS EXERCISE",while on VLCD.
I am guessing you meant "strenuous" and you have auto correct lol... I think we should avoid strangeness too on VLCD or not lol... Sorry it struck me funny and made me giggle.
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:17 PM   #6
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No, it doesn't say anything about no strenuous activity.
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:09 AM   #7
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I am guessing you meant "strenuous" and you have auto correct lol... I think we should avoid strangeness too on VLCD or not lol... Sorry it struck me funny and made me giggle.
LOL, I try to avoid 'strangeness,' at all cost as well!
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:47 AM   #8
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I also read that you are not to do strenuous exercise while on the VLCD.
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Old 09-28-2011, 02:40 AM   #9
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I also read that you are not to do strenuous exercise while on the VLCD.
Correct; however, I did light weight lifting and slowly increased my proteins to a point the light headiness’ went away. Before I did that, while I didn't faint, I sure saw a couple of floating stars. It's a balance between exercise and increasing food for sure.
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Old 09-28-2011, 02:46 AM   #10
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I have to agree... trying to do any sort of training, long distance endurance, etc is not a good idea on this plan unless you are in P3... you are a veteran so I don't know if you are in P2 or P3...I'm guessing you are in a P2 round if you are actively on HCG... NOT a good idea. You are on so few calories that your body just runs out of fuel... if you are going to do any sort of long endurance or extensive training you need to add carbs...Simeons didn't really need to discuss this in depth, it's just common sense. Your muscles and body need fuel... and the fuel needed from endurance type workouts comes from carbohydrates. Try using a recovery drink before, during and after... you can take 1-2 servings and split them up. I use Accelerade from GNC... it provides the perfect carb to protein ratio you need for intense workouts... I personally would say that P2 is just not the phase to be in for running a marathon... just not doing your body, muscles or mind a service on so few calories
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Old 09-28-2011, 02:50 AM   #11
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Here is an article that might help give you some healthy ideas...

Seven snack ideas before a workout

Eating a high carbohydrate snack two hours before exercising can leave you ample energy and a calm stomach for a great workout. The snack should contain 40 to 100 grams of carbohydrates, and low in fat. Too much fiber may stimulate the digestive system at an inappropriate time.

Banana and yogurt (56 grams)
Bagel with jelly and juice (83 grams)
Cereal (1 oz.) and milk (34 grams)
Coconut Water (naturally fat free/16.7 calories per 100 grams)
Energy bar and water (20-50 grams)
Fresh fruits such as oranges or bananas (15-25 grams per)
Whole grain bran muffin (37 grams)

If you have access to a blender, we also recommend you enjoy a healthy protein shake. The following is a recipe you might want to try out: 1 cup 2% milk, half a banana, a handful of blueberries and strawberries, 2 tsp natural peanut butter, a tsp of honey and 1 scoop of whey protein.

By having a high-intensity workout lasting 60-90 minutes or longer, it becomes crucial to eat afterwards. From the health page at msn.com > , within the first 45 minutes post-exercise, there’s a “metabolic window.” This means that enzymes that replenish muscle carbohydrates are at their highest levels.

Missing the metabolic window is bad news: If you delay refueling, you slow carbohydrate replenishment by 50 percent and protein repair by 80 percent, according to John Ivy, an exercise physiologist at the University of Texas and the author of Nutrient Timing . And that means that you may be sluggish and fatigued during tomorrow’s workout.

Dr. Christine Rosenbloom, author and nutrition professor at Georgia State University in Atlanta, suggests a protein snack post-workout. Providing high-quality protein after exercising gives your muscles the fuel and building blocks needed for both repair and for growth. However, more isn’t better -- only 10 to 20 grams of protein are needed to provide amino acids (the building blocks of protein) to muscles.
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:13 AM   #12
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I also read that you are not to do strenuous exercise while on the VLCD.
nowhere in the protocol- it's a common rumor, though. Dr. S. actually recommends "vigorous" exercise for those who are already doing that- it decrease muscle weakness toward the end of the protocol.

but it all depends on how good your body is at burning fat- your body will tell you how much is too much.
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:27 AM   #13
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nowhere in the protocol- it's a common rumor, though. Dr. S. actually recommends "vigorous" exercise for those who are already doing that- it decrease muscle weakness toward the end of the protocol.

but it all depends on how good your body is at burning fat- your body will tell you how much is too much.
I agree.. and fainting is usually a sign that it's too much LOL!! I adjusted my workout regimen in my first round and found that it was just too much to continue what I was doing... I continued to tweak it to a point where I knew my muscles weren't being starved (signs are generally tiredness, hunger and a feeling of exhaustion)... I think if I were training for a marathon I would have to take a break from the HCG, typically you are looking at a pretty high caloric intake during training, a good majority coming from healthy carbs...
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Old 09-28-2011, 04:32 AM   #14
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i think it's interesting how different people are- i suspect it has to do with how well they burn fat. i'm horribly weak in P2. some days i can hardly walk across a room, let alone function normally. and i've also had days i could ride 15 miles- although i think i burned up a lot of muscle during my rounds. i've known other people who feel great- have no decrease in energy at all.
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