[O25YtQnn]

Let me get this out first..... No, I don't want to charge for tracks.

Now that that's out of the way, I've discovered someone selling remixes/mashups on another site for $.99 a download, (streaming for free) I've questioned this, and basically got "It's my Business.." Which I understand, I'm not the internet police or anything, it was just weird, my asking about it was more curiosity than anything. Mostly wondering if they knew that their host was charging for downloads.

I asked this question about a year ago, but the question has been re-raised by someone else this time and it has turned kinda ugly.


I know that sometimes people sell mixtapes, and charge for the duplication and printing of covers etc. I'm cool with that, but charging for a download where you don't pay the hosting costs'??

I've alway been of the mind that mixes should be free, so we don't bring down the wrath of the unmentionable associations. (not underwear)

I was wondering what you guys thought of this practice of selling downloads.

Keep up the good work guys!!!

Silence7

[Paul Bunyan]

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Techncially we shouldnt even be posting these tracks for free. Mashup artists display notices on their site stating that mixes are for promotional purposes only. illegal unless you have a digital license. The issue really remains that the record companies are behind the times trying to get as much money as they can while they still have some kind of strong hold

Any person that charges for mixes or bootlegs is breaking the law. The cutup boys were able to do this becasue all the tracks were licensed under ministroy of sound records.

This is now, wait til the future were it is more likely that digital mixing licenses will come into effect. Kinda like dj'ing license for playing tracks on air, but instead digital licenses where you pay to use specific informaiton in tracks / songs, whether it be vocal or backing. This is the only way that the records companies will be able to keep up. The issue here being the fine line between the license to remix tracks and the license to sell your remixes.

After all, in terms of a digital license, what is the difference between mixing the first few bars as any dj would to create a set, and rearranging the whole track into another. You will see some shockers over the next few years. You shoud browse the internet to find out what they have planned for us. It wil either be great for us, in a more free environment or they will lock us down to a point were we will basically be underground groups again

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[Gometesstem]

Idiots like this give the record companies more and more reasons to issue sites like SUSN, GDJN and GYBO with Cease and Desist orders (as we are unknowingly supplying these tossers with tracks, even though we offer them for "Promotional Use only"). One of the main culprits for this were a group that I think were called crooklyn clan. At one point you could sell your bootlegs / mashups with them.

It all comes down to one thing though, if people are stupid enough to pay for something, you will always get someone greedy enough to offer something that is usually free at a price.

[DagoIgnog]

Charging for tracks that you don't have the copyright to surely will bring the scene down, giving the record companies, publishers etc. the handle to sue you.
It's also morally despicable.

[Boripiomi]

Does the licence allow me to create mixes?
All that the Digital DJ Licence allows you to do is copy onto, and store on, the DJ Database (and Back-up Database) sound recordings in their original form (that is, the version that you downloaded or that was on the record that purchased from the shop). You are not entitled to edit or alter the track (including combining two or more tracks to create a new track).

This does not stop you creating a mix from different tracks when you are performing as a DJ. However, neither you nor anyone else will be able to record this mix.

Can PPL inspect my computer?
PPL will have the right to inspect the DJ Database and Back-up Database.So this "DJ Database" is some sort of software? They seem to dance around the subject but never say. The only way they could inspect your computer is if it's some sort of software, or they come to your house.

The "Dubbing Obligations" section is almost comical.

Dub each Track in its entirety provided that the Fade-down Section of any Track may be subject to the use of premature fade and cross-faded or overlapped with the Track following immediately thereafter provided that the period of audible cross fade or overlap does not exceed 2 (two) seconds;

[wantedLOX]

No - the database is a list of all your tracks, including the tracks themselves. And they DO come to your house to do it too. They can inspect any or all of your hard drives.
Slackjawedlocal on GYBO had an audit from PPL recently..

[topcasinobonua]

This person I mentioned doesn't seem to think it's a big deal because people can just record his tracks from the stream, and they're also available elsewhere on the internet for free download. I'm trying to fight the good fight for the good of the cause, but I feel that my words are falling on deaf ears.

His tracks are on a very well known commercial site that's known for booting people who have (c) material, so it may just be a matter of time for him anyway.

[adunnyByday]

It's all based on ethics. Most groups who sell their stuff usually don't have any. And you can usually place them into some sort of stereotypical group.
I'm game to make money off of my stuff, but I'm working on getting it done legally.