[Ladbarbastirm]

a true teacher, a true guru, charges nothing, and still gains much from his/her students because the students will give back graciously, of their own accord, when and how they are able to. that is the way it should work.

alicia,

i understand your frustration but you also must remember that what you have written is not a true statement. the master immanuel, the one wrongly called jesus, did not give his teachings free. yes, it is true he did not take up a collection each time he taught but he received in kind. everyone where he went he stayed with someone locally and was fed by them. truthfully, he did not give away his teachings free even two thousand years ago.

he, like dw and many of us, either have to do mundane work in order to be able to do these kinds of teachings or receive energy exchanges in the form of monetary means to be able to survive. we would surely like to be able to stand on a street corner and teach free of charge but it costs simply to travel from one location to another. it is no longer possible to walk from one place to another relying on the hospitality and generosity of a "local" to provide food and shelter.

if people are profiting from sacred knowledge that is every one's birthright, then this planet surely is doomed. the "sacred knowledge that is everyone's birthright" is available in written form in numerous places or is obtainable by extraction from various sources. nothing that is being repeated today is new. it is all information that has been around for thousands of years and has simply been repeated in various ways during that time.

i understand that not all have either the inclination nor the driving desire to do the research to achieve the level of knowledge you would like to have. but if you desire for others to do the work to extract this information and then to provide it to others the ones doing the research too have the "birthright" to receive sufficient abundance to live comfortably. there will be some that might become mired in 3d physicality and allow greed to encroach but not all.

i actually went to a well known authors website who published widely know books about his personal communication with god. he has made millions off these book. that is a misconception that everyone who writes a book makes "millions" off of them. dw is a great example, he surely has not made millions in the sense you used the term off of the books he has been an author of. even authors who write a book that stays at the top of the best seller list rarely makes "millions" off the book. there are many people in the chain that "take their cut" from the price of the book so that the author doesn't receive that much. most authors who make any money at all off of a book do so through ancillary activities. speaking engagements, seminars, workshops, etc. the writing of the book only gives the author name recognition so that people are willing to come these events.

the whole financial system. i wish we didn't need it. yes, that is going to be nice, isn't it? that is what is promised for 4d, a system in which everyone has the opportunity to exist at the same level. the promised system is to be one where you will contribute based on your skills and talents in return for which you will received based on your needs. this system will only work when everyone is of the same mind. it can not function today because of the scattering of the mental focus of the entities on this planet.

again i understand your frustration as i would also like to attend the event in la with the elders but i cannot afford to do so either. i would be going simply to hear the slant that these particular elders would have on the unfolding events and to be in the presence of the skulls. please understand these particular elders are not the only "mayan elders" that is claiming ancestry from the original mayan elders. each has their own slant on the events that will unfold. since no one on the planet has physically experienced what is to come it is a projection purely based upon the knowledge left behind by those that have gone before.

ironically, the mayan source is probably the weakest source of any available as only three codices (books) survived the brutal burning of them by the spanish in the 1500's. so whatever these elders' might say is going to be based on the distortions of oral tradition handed down over the centuries reinforced by their own concepts. probably what you really want is the same as i and that is to be in the presence of all of the skulls at the same time. i'm not sure that they actually will have all 13 of the original skulls.

love and light,

brother asa

[Nabeqiv]

it seems like this has turned toward blaming david for the accusation. allykat had stated this was about the crystal skulls and how the knowledge is being hypacritical in its description to distribution. which i agree with.

i dont know allykats take on this, but asside from what you can buy from david he also has quite alot for free. including this forum to further discuss his accounts. money is like everything else, nuetral, we make it good or bad. i would say david is trying to do good with it, if not doing the very best he can. what more could be expected?

[Arximedus]

i think there is many issues with money (asside from it not having any real value). is that its instant. what i mean by this is you can instantly change the entire life of a person with its passing, which is instant plus leaves no attatchment to its giver. its influence is immense. once its yours its yours, then goes from there.

its not only instant but small, you wouldnt mug some guy downtown if he had 5 carts full of veggies. you would never get away, the benefit wouldnt exceed the possible consequence. plus you couldnt go around town spendin veggies, but money is for anything. its kind of sad to me the global worthe has no actual worthe in reality, but holds the key to every outcome of life it effects. its all a game of monopoly, and were the pieces trying to get back to "go".

[joOEMcheapSOFTWARE]

i feel as though some of the words written here to the original author are fairly judgmental in her attempt to be as kind and as patient with her economic situation.

it is true, some of us live in survival mode, i to work for minimum wage, and i to feel sadness when reading about all these great events and i am unable to attend due to my inability to at this time find productive paying work.

however, i must agree, that if you ask for information, it will be delivered, regardless of the source.

some are lucky to learn through events, and others are enriched to learn in life, it is the paths we walk but i feel you alleykat i also wish to go on vacation and learn instead of the hard knock life.

[TCjwwhcY]

it seems like this has turned toward blaming david for the accusation. allykat had stated this was about the crystal skulls and how the knowledge is being hypacritical in its description to distribution. which i agree with.

i dont know allykats take on this, but asside from what you can buy from david he also has quite alot for free. including this forum to further discuss his accounts. money is like everything else, nuetral, we make it good or bad. i would say david is trying to do good with it, if not doing the very best he can. what more could be expected?

thank you so much sammy, yes i am not blaming david. i have stated in my original post and will state again, i have been a member of this site for years and i have bought several products that were in my price range and also bought the source field investigations and there also has been so so much information i have received for free. david is a researched and i have never once heard him proclaim to be a "guru" or even a spiritual teacher. he is just simply sharing he reseach, knowlege and opinions with the world. and i do appreciate him and his work. and yes there are others like david who givemuch away for free.

i am referring to those who do proclaim to be gurus or have sacred knowledge that they solely or mostly charge for. i understand how expensive it is to live in the world. i do not wish anyone to be broke or on food stamps but my point is...spirituality is not a business. it is not a career. it is not a job. if someone is proclaiming to be a guru or an elder and have sacred knowledge ect they should be teaching and giving information freely and then be doing something else on the side to earn income to support their material needs. and if they do not have the time for all this then get out of the way and let some one else teach, someone who is willing to make all the sacrifices required.

as far as the author who made millions, i was not talking about david. i was referring to someone who admitted that they made millions off these books and yes they have also claimed to have given some away yet this individual is still asking for several thousand dollars to attend a seminar at his home.

as far as the mayan elders go, i feel they should only be asking for donations to fund their pilgramige but i had a realization that just by the skulls being in this country they are effecting us all as their energy and power can travel great distances. we need only focus on them in meditation. we can all be present there in la through our consciousness, for free!!!!

i was just very upset when i wrote the original post but i am at the point in my evolution where i am processing things very quickly and letting stuff go, forgiving and moving on

i would like to also add that i have a kundalini yoga training and as part of our course my teacher taught us that yoga is to be taught for free to all those who wish to learn but she said, money is an exchange of energy so she does use the donation box method but she also stated that money is not the only way to exchange energy...so if someone can't afford a donation but they still wanna give something back, let them do it in another way, like cleaning the yoga studio for a day.

thank you all for your replies they are appreciated as i have something to learn form you all, and you form me

the beauty of creation!!

much love,

alicia

[Jellowstrom]

i think you have a point, alicia. yes people have to earn a living for food, clothing and shelter. but maybe their main source of income should not be from spreading this sort of information. there is great potential for the info to be come corrupted by people needing to produce regular amounts of info to keep selling tickets or books or keep ppl listening to their radio show.

i am always wary of people who make this their profession. take alex jones for instance. i can't take him seriously because he gets paid by making sure people are listening to his radio show. so the pure info is corrupted by sesationalizing or fudging the facts. if not completely fabricating facts to begin with.

the same could potentially happen to david wilcock. what if in a few years his career starts losing steam because he is not coming up with new stuff to sell new books or convention tickets? is he going to start making stuff up? or is he going to start selling thousand dollar tickets to stay it his home with him for a weekend like the other author you mentioned? lol... by the way that just sounds creepy.

i am not knocking david at all because i don't sense that he is corrupt or greedy. it was hard work putting that wonderful book together and he deserves some money flow for that. the book was certainly worth it, imo.

well, alicia, take a shaman, for example. the village shaman's profession, and source of income, is to be a shaman. a shaman is sort of like a a channeler. and david is a channeler. so we could just say david is sort of being the shaman for this village we call the earth.

i totally feel your pain though. there are many things that i have wanted to do that i didn't have the money for. dw's convention being one of them. also past life regression hypnotherapy. and... well... going to the dentist is something i just don't have the money for. but this is why i am going to school to be a hypnotherapist so that i can make more money so i can afford luxuries like going to the dentist (sarcasm intended).

i think we are similar in that, if i had something to offer that people really wanted to partake of, i would not be able to charge a lot for it. or maybe on a sliding scale. because i would want the people, like me, who work hard but are on a budget, to be able to have it too.

keep your head up girl!