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Old 01-12-2012, 05:35 AM   #1
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Default Was Tim Tebow’s game-winning touchdown illegal?

Only six players are set on the line of scrimmage. (NFL.com)


A review of the Denver Broncos' pre-snap formation on the game-winning touchdown pass from Tim Tebow to Demaryius Thomas suggests that the play could have been ruled illegal ((VIDEO)).

Only six Denver Broncos players were lined up on the line of scrimmage before the snap. NFL rules say that a team must have seven or more players on the line for a snap to be legal. As the picture above shows, tight end Dante Rosario was well behind his teammates.

The formation eventually caught the eye of current Fox analyst and former NFL Vice President of Officiating Mike Pereira. He dismissed any suggestion that the play should have been whistled dead. "Watch on any Sunday," he tweeted. "This is a good formation compared to many. They are not technical with this."

In other words, the "seven men on the line" is a rule on the books but one that doesn't require a tape measure and straight edge to determine if every player is precisely on the line of scrimmage. If seven guys are close to line and set, Pereira implies, then the formation is fine. The seven Broncos were close to the line and set, so there was nothing to call.
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This seems to go against all other NFL rule enforcements, which always say that the letter of the law is far more important than the spirit of it. Still, when Pereira speaks, it's wise to listen.

That being said, I went back and looked at tape from every touchdown scored during wild-card weekend and didn't see a single formation in which the scoring team wasn't set with at least seven guys on the line of scrimmage. In this comprehensive highlight package of Bengals-Texans, there's only one play (at the 4:10 mark) that has a similar sloppy formation. This neither confirms nor contradicts Pereira's point, it only shows that "illegal" sets aren't exactly a pox on the NFL.
Should Tebow's touchdown have counted? Absolutely. It isn't a penalty if you don't get caught.
Update: NFL spokesman Greg Aiello says the formation was legal. "This is a legal formation," he told NFL.com. "This should not have been flagged." It's not exactly an in-depth rules explanation, but it's definitive.
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:44 AM   #2
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God was the Lines Judge on the play
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:57 AM   #3
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Only six players are set on the line of scrimmage. (NFL.com)


A review of the Denver Broncos' pre-snap formation on the game-winning touchdown pass from Tim Tebow to Demaryius Thomas suggests that the play could have been ruled illegal ((VIDEO)).

Only six Denver Broncos players were lined up on the line of scrimmage before the snap. NFL rules say that a team must have seven or more players on the line for a snap to be legal. As the picture above shows, tight end Dante Rosario was well behind his teammates.

The formation eventually caught the eye of current Fox analyst and former NFL Vice President of Officiating Mike Pereira. He dismissed any suggestion that the play should have been whistled dead. "Watch on any Sunday," he tweeted. "This is a good formation compared to many. They are not technical with this."

In other words, the "seven men on the line" is a rule on the books but one that doesn't require a tape measure and straight edge to determine if every player is precisely on the line of scrimmage. If seven guys are close to line and set, Pereira implies, then the formation is fine. The seven Broncos were close to the line and set, so there was nothing to call.
[Related: Pittsburgh mayor salutes Tim Tebow to settle bet]
This seems to go against all other NFL rule enforcements, which always say that the letter of the law is far more important than the spirit of it. Still, when Pereira speaks, it's wise to listen.

That being said, I went back and looked at tape from every touchdown scored during wild-card weekend and didn't see a single formation in which the scoring team wasn't set with at least seven guys on the line of scrimmage. In this comprehensive highlight package of Bengals-Texans, there's only one play (at the 4:10 mark) that has a similar sloppy formation. This neither confirms nor contradicts Pereira's point, it only shows that "illegal" sets aren't exactly a pox on the NFL.
Should Tebow's touchdown have counted? Absolutely. It isn't a penalty if you don't get caught.
Update: NFL spokesman Greg Aiello says the formation was legal. "This is a legal formation," he told NFL.com. "This should not have been flagged." It's not exactly an in-depth rules explanation, but it's definitive.
Saw that....the NFL is covering its ass, saying that they don't always enforce that rule.

Bullshit...I've seen it called before, but Denver won the game due to Pitt's defense, not a blown call.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:00 AM   #4
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it is like holding, if it isn't caught, it is not a penalty
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:06 AM   #5
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I heard about this earlier, but if the play wasn't called, it's sour grapes and too late now. I'm not a Denver fan, but I think the opening paragraph was correct when he stated "this is a good formation compared to many."
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:12 AM   #6
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I think it prob is legal, especially now, not like they are gonna say "oh shit we blew that one"........lol

But I think it will slightly tarnish the "miracle"......... So next time???????
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:19 AM   #7
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He's gonna need a miracle! ---Sorry for the Bronco fans, but after this weekend, Tebow Time is all over!
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:47 AM   #8
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Funny, that is they said last weekend...........
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:10 AM   #9
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Maybe, but he's gonna need a much bigger miracle.......... Doubt the game gets to OT this time around1
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Old 01-13-2012, 07:09 AM   #10
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If they didn't have to identify the culprit, they could throw a flag for offensive holding on almost every play.

Maybe someone who lost a bundle to the Las Vegas sports books will file a lawsuit?



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