[lapInsalm]

Who do you think is paying the big amounts of money the clubs are spending?

[JulieSmithdccd]

Who do you think is paying the big amounts of money the clubs are spending?

this isn't about clubs its about internationals..the clubs get nothing from international tournaments

[lapInsalm]

this isn't about clubs its about internationals..the clubs get nothing from international tournaments

mmm, I think you're wrong. Look, TV pays to FIFA, and FIFA pays to clubs when they play Champions League, European League, Libertadores Cup, etc...Do you know the amount of money a team recieves for each won match in champions league? All this money comes from UEFA that is European FIFA..

[reachmanxx]

This is actually an older story which just became updated. Why it's showing a picture of Steven Gerrard is beyond me as this wouldn't affect England, or other Home Nations, games at the tournaments. It would only mean teams like Spain, Italy and Brazil would have their games shown on the pay-TV services (Sky, ESPN etc).

And no, football clubs don't earn anything from International tournaments like the World Cup being shown on Sky. Stuff like the Champions League yes (that's actually a very good earner) and their own leagues, but no, not International Tournaments.

[lapInsalm]

Who is paid for TV rights? I think FIFA (or UEFA in case of Eurocup). So, these organization pay later clubs in European/American competition as Champions League.

[reachmanxx]

Here's a rundown.

FIFA have the rights to any and all World Cup matches. If they wanted to FIFA could broadcast every single World Cup match on FIFA.com, but that's not very smart because it doesn't make them any money (unless they charged), but it certainly wouldn't make it anywhere near as lucrative as selling it to the various TV stations around the world, but they leave that to the various football associations to sort out themselves. The FA get the best price for these tournaments over a few tournaments and tell FIFA "ok this is happening" and it goes on. So the TV stations (like BBC) pay the FA who pay FIFA.

Now as for the Champions League that's slightly different because the Clubs get TV appearence money because of the different deal in place.

In the case of Spanish football in England, Sky Sports broadcast that, but that involves Sky Sports negotiating directly with the Spanish FA.

[POMAH_K]

Here's a rundown.

FIFA have the rights to any and all World Cup matches. If they wanted to FIFA could broadcast every single World Cup match on FIFA.com, but that's not very smart because it doesn't make them any money (unless they charged), but it certainly wouldn't make it anywhere near as lucrative as selling it to the various TV stations around the world, but they leave that to the various football associations to sort out themselves. The FA get the best price for these tournaments over a few tournaments and tell FIFA "ok this is happening" and it goes on. So the TV stations (like BBC) pay the FA who pay FIFA.

Now as for the Champions League that's slightly different because the Clubs get TV appearence money because of the different deal in place.

In the case of Spanish football in England, Sky Sports broadcast that, but that involves Sky Sports negotiating directly with the Spanish FA.

There's even more to it than that, because the UK has laws in place regarding TV. Since we pay a license fee, we get certain rights protected by law. One of them is that national events of significance important are "free-to-air." The courts would contest any deal involving Rupert Murdoch and the World Cup. You can be sure of that.

[reachmanxx]

Oh I don't think this will happen by the way. The most that could perhaps happen is maybe dual broadcasts, like they do with Wimbledon and the Snooker World Championships, but I can't see the World Cup games not involving the home nations being exclusively sold to pay-TV.

[lapInsalm]

I understand the proccess you told me. And yes, that's how thing goes relative to international tournamets and TV rights negotiation.

I will show you some numbers:

Last year UEFA allocated € 754M to prizes for those clubs playing Champios League.

From these 754M, 3.9M was paid to each participating team, only for participation, independently of the round the reach.

800k each victory, 400k for draw match.

What do I mean? All money goes to the same place, FIFA or UEFA or CONCACAF or whatever...and those associations deal with the money so either countries FA or club recieve it.

I hope you understand my English, coz I'm from Spain...

Regards.

Edit: By the way, tomorro final score, England 1 - Spain 4 xD

[reachmanxx]

Hopefully Spain will wipe the floor with England and have at least 75% possession. They averaged that in Euro 2012 qualifying.

[LoohornePharp]

Hopefully Spain will wipe the floor with England and have at least 75% possession. They averaged that in Euro 2012 qualifying.

What is this an Englishman cheering for Spain

High treason

[reachmanxx]

I'm actually part German, and can't stand the overrated England team. Full of ego's, poor management and stupid fans who overrate the team and then wonder why they go out of tournaments.

[Sillaycheg]

If FIFA and UEFA win their appeal, I will be horrified that I would have to get a subscription. I think it should remain on non-Pay TV channels

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13358827

And there is alleged corruption in FIFA.

[JulieSmithdccd]

i can actually see a pattern forming,an english/german supporting the world/european champions and the club that wins most trophies in england

[reachmanxx]

I don't support Spain, I just appreciate the way they play football, and I dislike the overblown England team, by the media mainly. And i was born in Manchester, which might have more to do with supporting the most successful English side ever.

[LoohornePharp]

i can actually see a pattern forming,an english/german supporting the world/european champions and the club that wins most trophies in england

I cannot see it