[staisacic]

i own five pits and its been over 14yrs now is it me or does it seem that rednose more outgoing bluenose more brut force both awsome dogs/breeds

[TOOGUEITEME]

well my rednose is lazy,but he thinks he's a lap dog.my females father is a bluenose from razors edge lines and brute force is correct she will pull you to the ground for a lizard,and is just crazy just on 10 at all times of the day energy out the ass she is always ready to play and is never tired.but i think its based on the actual dogs that are being bred cause i think any dog can act a certain way depending on the parents parents parents and so on.but from my experience with some bluenose dogs from gotti,razors edge,greyline these dogs have crazy drive,not all but the more correct ones that arent fat bloated trophy dogs.

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and i know that not all dogs from these lines are blue but the majority imo are.

[carfAball]

Why do you all say "bluenose" instead of "blue"?

No one ever used to say "bluenose". They just had a "blue" dog. (blue dogs ALWAYS have a blue nose).

It sounds very novicey. It does not sound "cool" or knowledgeable at all.

And, there is no such thing as "the bluenose bloodline". It's better to say that dogs of such and such a line are often blue...

Carla

[blankostaroe]

14 years, eh?

There are no "rednose" or "bluenose" lines, your "Colby" dog is probably anything but, and a dog's nose color does not dictate their temperament or energy level...

[Repwailia]

sorry hon.. rednose and bluenose are not bloodlines.

[Golotop]

14 years, eh?

There are no "rednose" or "bluenose" lines, your "Colby" dog is probably anything but,

I second that especially when you factor in that there is no such thing as a rednosed Colby dog period.

[Repwailia]

no such thing as a rednose/coby line either.

[TOOGUEITEME]

Why do you all say "bluenose" instead of "blue"?

No one ever used to say "bluenose". They just had a "blue" dog. (blue dogs ALWAYS have a blue nose).

It sounds very novicey. It does not sound "cool" or knowledgeable at all.

And, there is no such thing as "the bluenose bloodline". It's better to say that dogs of such and such a line are often blue...

Carla

ive seen all white dogs with a bluenose,and fawn dogs with only a blue nose,its sounds pretty novice to me to quickly point out every ones mistakes instead of trying to inform and educate.people respond better to inteligent responses instead of insults.how do you know noone used to say blue nose?all blue dogs have a bluenose,but not all bluenose dogs are blue.

[Repwailia]

Bloodlines

[TOOGUEITEME]

I second that especially when you factor in that there is no such thing as a rednosed Colby dog period.

you are correct sir

[blankostaroe]

Originally Posted by Sagebrush Why do you all say "bluenose" instead of "blue"?

No one ever used to say "bluenose". They just had a "blue" dog. (blue dogs ALWAYS have a blue nose).

It sounds very novicey. It does not sound "cool" or knowledgeable at all.

And, there is no such thing as "the bluenose bloodline". It's better to say that dogs of such and such a line are often blue...

Carla

ive seen all white dogs with a bluenose,and fawn dogs with only a blue nose,its sounds pretty novice to me to quickly point out every ones mistakes instead of trying to inform and educate.people respond better to inteligent responses instead of insults.how do you know noone used to say blue nose?all blue dogs have a bluenose,but not all bluenose dogs are blue. Carla is no novice

[Golotop]

ive seen all white dogs with a bluenose,and fawn dogs with only a blue nose,its sounds pretty novice to me to quickly point out every ones mistakes instead of trying to inform and educate.people respond better to inteligent responses instead of insults.how do you know noone used to say blue nose?all blue dogs are bluenose,but not all bluenose dogs are blue.

If the dog has a blue nose then the dog has blue pigment in its blood which will classify it as a "blue dog".

Blue is not a desired trait, it is a flaw. Somewhere down the line the lack of black pigment was diluted to create this blue coloring.

When describing a dog those in the know will use the bloodline name not the color of the dogs nose. All my dogs have black noses, when people ask me about my dogs I do not say "oh I got black nosed pits" but rather say what bloodlines my dogs come from.

That is what Carla is referring to. When people call out thier dogs by thier nose color that is a clear indication that the owner of the dog is a novice and probably doesn't know too much more about thier dog or the breed so her post is justified.

[Bobobsdo]

A dog's personality depends more upon the individual dog, although some bloodlines do carry traits that one may see exhibited from their invidual dog.

And nose color is just that: nose color. Neither a red nose or a blue nose nor even a black nose come close to telling the story of how a dog is bred. It's just the color of the nose.

And although there is a Colby line of dogs, it is also one of the most commonly used names touted by bybs to describe their own dogs which truthfully no one knows how they are bred. "Colby" (also seen as "Coby"), "Gator", "Boudreaux" (also seen as "Boodro" and "Boodrow")....these are all names used because they sound cool not because that is how the dog is really bred. And even if there are a few Colby or Boudreaux dogs within a 7-generation pedigree, it by no means mean that a dog is linebred in such a fashion. Most of the dogs are scatterbred animals that someone just sees a name in the ped and calls it such. Just because a name appears doesn't automatically make the dog of that bloodline. There's a whole lot more to reading and understanding pedigrees than that.

But I hope you stick around and learn. We all started from somewhere and there is no hurt pride in admitting you are starting at the beginning. We all started right there.

[TOOGUEITEME]

Originally Posted by Sagebrush Why do you all say "bluenose" instead of "blue"?

No one ever used to say "bluenose". They just had a "blue" dog. (blue dogs ALWAYS have a blue nose).

It sounds very novicey. It does not sound "cool" or knowledgeable at all.

And, there is no such thing as "the bluenose bloodline". It's better to say that dogs of such and such a line are often blue...

Carla

Carla is no novice well that did nothing for this discussion

[JaK_MarkoV_Pi]

i own five pits and its been over 14yrs now is it me or does it seem that rednose more outgoing bluenose more brut force both awsome dogs/breeds

well you clearly havent learned much in those 14 years have you !....what has the colour of a dogs nose got to do with the inside of his mind ??
and since when has a red nose/blue nose been a dog or breed of dog.........its the colour of a dogs nose nothing more nothing less....

all my dogs in near 30 years have been jet black with orange eyes...they are still just apbt and they all have different traits and characters.....their colour is just that....a colour !

[carfAball]

ive seen all white dogs with a bluenose,and fawn dogs with only a blue nose,its sounds pretty novice to me to quickly point out every ones mistakes instead of trying to inform and educate.people respond better to inteligent responses instead of insults.how do you know noone used to say blue nose?all blue dogs have a bluenose,but not all bluenose dogs are blue.

A white dog can have a blue nose,yes -- the dog still is blue genetically, it's a blue dog with a big white spot! (genetically-speaking). Yes, an all-white dog can be called white casually, but if it has a definitely blue nose, I and many others will know it to be a blue dog.

If a fawn dog has a blue nose, it's blue fawn, not blue nose. Yes, a dog can really "appear" to be just fawn, but if the nose is definitely BLUE, the dog IS blue -- blue fawn. You can usually tell the difference when you put a blue fawn next to a true fawn. The shading in the coat will be different.

How old are you?

Carla

[TOOGUEITEME]

If the dog has a blue nose then the dog has blue pigment in its blood which will classify it as a "blue dog".

Blue is not a desired trait, it is a flaw. Somewhere down the line the lack of black pigment was diluted to create this blue coloring.

When describing a dog those in the know will use the bloodline name not the color of the dogs nose. All my dogs have black noses, when people ask me about my dogs I do not say "oh I got black nosed pits" but rather say what bloodlines my dogs come from.

That is what Carla is referring to. When people call out thier dogs by thier nose color that is a clear indication that the owner of the dog is a novice and probably doesn't know too much more about thier dog or the breed so her post is justified.

how someone refers to there dog isnt a clear indication of anything,its just how they talk,you dont know what that person knows and they dont know what you know.old dogmen call there apbts, bulldogs you gonna go correct them and tell them the proper term is american pit bull terrier?but ill let the people who there the pit bull gods be because everyones who doesnt say exactly what they think is right is a novice

[ultimda horaf]

If the dog has a blue nose then the dog has blue pigment in its blood which will classify it as a "blue dog".

Not exactly...has to do with genetics and melanin and the dillution of the eumalanin (brown and black pigment)

Blue is not a desired trait, it is a flaw. Somewhere down the line the lack of black pigment was diluted to create this blue coloring.

First of all blue is not caused by a lack of black pigment...it is caused by the dillution of black pigment (not the same as "watering down"...more the fact that it inhibits the formation and deposit of the black pigment).

Blue is also not a "flaw"...it is just another color


That is what Carla is referring to. When people call out thier dogs by thier nose color that is a clear indication that the owner of the dog is a novice and probably doesn't know too much more about thier dog or the breed so her post is justified.

...or maybe they are just using the term rednose/bluenose/blacknose/ect as a simple description to help describe what their dog looks like

I think the BLUE was a nice touch...my computer ran out of BLACK ink!

[TOOGUEITEME]

A white dog can have a blue nose,yes -- the dog still is blue genetically, it's a blue dog with a big white spot! (genetically-speaking). Yes, an all-white dog can be called white casually, but if it has a definitely blue nose, I and many others will know it to be a blue dog.

If a fawn dog has a blue nose, it's blue fawn, not blue nose. Yes, a dog can really "appear" to be just fawn, but if the nose is definitely BLUE, the dog IS blue -- blue fawn. You can usually tell the difference when you put a blue fawn next to a true fawn. The shading in the coat will be different.

How old are you?

Carla

how old are you?old enough to know when to drop a subject

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I think the BLUE was a nice touch...my computer ran out of BLACK ink!

[Golotop]

how someone refers to there dog isnt a clear indication of anything

It most certainly does, if you have to call your dog by its nose color then to me and alot of others that is a clear cut indication that you are not up to date on your dogs true lineage because if you really knew then you wouldn't call it a blue nose but rather call it by its bloodline.

old dogmen call there apbts, bulldogs you gonna go correct them and tell them the proper term is american pit bull terrier Why would I do that when I too refer to my charge as Bulldawgs. How many of these old timers do you see calling thier dogs by the color of thier noses ? They dont.


DieselDawg
First of all blue is not caused by a lack of black pigment...it is caused by the dillution of black pigment Your playing semantics here, a lack of black vs dilution...I am reffering to the same thing, just worded differently.

Blue is also not a "flaw"...it is just another color No it is a flaw and should not be bred apon. Blue pigment has been linked to Demo, that is a flaw.

or maybe they are just using the term rednose/bluenose/blacknose/ect as a simple description to help describe what their dog looks like And again, when reffering to my dogs I no dot call them "black noses" but rather by thier bloodlines. When asked what color I will say my dogs are brindle, black brindle or buckskin /red but never by thier nose color.

When I talk to people on the street, in stores or at other places where I may come across others with APBT's i'll ask....what bloodlines ? The most common reply..."oh I got a rednose" or "I got a bluenose". Thats fine and dandy but then I will say no....what bloodlines, not asking what color your dogs nose I am asking about the dogs pedigree/bloodlines. The typical reply after I ask that is...I dont know, my dog is just blue/red. That is obvious right there that the person I am talking to dont know much about what is on the other end of thier leash. Now when I meet someone and say hey what bloodline and they answer back..."oh he is redboy/jocko" then I know the person has a clue about the dog they are feeding.

Call it pre-judging or whatever you want but statistically speaking those who dont know normally mention the color of the nose and those who normally know will mention the bloodlines and not the color of the nose.