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Old 08-02-2009, 02:37 AM   #1
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Default HD films that suck.
Ok this thread is about films you watched but you felt they sucked due to the picture quality not being worthy of having a HD label.
For me recently it was on HD-DVD Bourne Identity,Bourne Supremacy,Bourne Ultimatum and mulholland drive.
I enjoyed all films but the image quality for me was crap to the point at which i may just have watched the bog standard SD dvds.
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Old 08-02-2009, 03:09 AM   #2
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I have the Bourne trilogy and the quality was way way way better than in DVD...

You have a full-HD TV?
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Old 08-02-2009, 03:16 AM   #3
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I found the Bourne trilogy to have absolutely impeccable image quality at 720p over component. Strange.
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Old 08-02-2009, 04:39 AM   #4
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I buy alot of BD movies and one that I regret getting is 10,000 BC, just a bad movie all around. Altho the IQ is very good the movie is not wirth watching
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Old 08-02-2009, 05:35 AM   #5
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An American Werewolf in London is the poorest I own, Worse than The Game imo and that's saying something.

The worst I've seen is Gangs of New York, DNR and edge enhancement galore, the actors look like cardboard cutouts.
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Old 08-02-2009, 05:43 AM   #6
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Well he did say HD-DVD. You guys have Blu-ray. I'm sure that's the key difference. The HD-DVD version is a poor job or something not set right.
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:10 AM   #7
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Bizarre, I've been watching The Bourne Ultimatum tonight on Sky HD (1080i) and it's great quality.
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:42 AM   #8
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Bizarre, I've been watching The Bourne Ultimatum tonight on Sky HD (1080i) and it's great quality.
Yeah i haven't seen the HDDVDs, but i presume the SkyHD version has a similar look. I think it looks quite good. The film intentially has a very grainy and muted look, so maybe that's what the OP doesn't like about it. All reviews i've read about the HDDVD says that it's a very good representation of the cinematic release from a technical point of view.

It's probably a similar case to 300. It looks absolutely stunning on Blu-ray, and totally represents the way the film is meant to look, but a lot of people complained about the heavy grain used in the film. I'm all for artisitc intent in these cases.
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:43 AM   #9
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I don't like the Bourne movies so they didn't matter much in HD or DVD. Anyway, olders movies remade into HD isn't worth it but if the movie is good it's preferable in my opinion. [yes]
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:48 AM   #10
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Anyway, olders movies remade into HD isn't worth it
Why not?
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:48 AM   #11
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You guys have Blu-ray.
I wasn't aware you'd been to my house Lenny? You should have looked harder for my missus' dirty underwear to sniff, as when you were going through the drawers you would have seen that the boxes on my Bourne Trilogy are red and the discs play in my 360 HD-DVD drive.
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:56 AM   #12
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CRASH.

Not a worst "HD" movie available as far as visual and audio quality goes. The sound sucks... The image quality is BARELY better than SD, if at all.

1/10 audio quality.

0/10 video quality

Horrible, horrible
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Old 09-01-2009, 07:00 AM   #13
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I wasn't aware you'd been to my house Lenny? You should have looked harder for my missus' dirty underwear to sniff, as when you were going through the drawers you would have seen that the boxes on my Bourne Trilogy are red and the discs play in my 360 HD-DVD drive.
Well everyone else stated they have BD. So that's not a fair comparison. You didn't say either way.

Don't have to be a knob about it. Jeez.
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Old 09-01-2009, 07:12 AM   #14
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Well everyone else stated they have BD. So that's not a fair comparison. You didn't say either way.

Don't have to be a knob about it. Jeez.
Eh? I'm sure that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are the same in picture quality. I mean, all HD is, is increased resolution.
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Old 09-01-2009, 07:18 AM   #15
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Eh? I'm sure that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are the same in picture quality. I mean, all HD is, is increased resolution.
I'm not disputing HD-DVD doesn't offer the same res and quality. You know I can have for example a 1080p divx film and compress it to 512kbps. Tell ya what, it looks like sh!t and a DVD looks better. This is an extreme not real life example but you get my point. The early day DVDs looked like rubbish in comparison to newer ones.

Anyhow my point is void since you guys have it on HD-DVD and say it's fine.
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Old 09-01-2009, 07:27 AM   #16
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Eh? I'm sure that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are the same in picture quality. I mean, all HD is, is increased resolution.
No, all HD is not just increased resolution.

SD- [surrender]
HD-


"HD" looks like crap.

They had movies that were encoded differently between the two formats in both bitrate and compression method used. As you can see above, it matters.

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For movies that suck I believe the quality of Gattaca looks extremely poor and noisy, but I've yet to really watch it.
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Old 09-01-2009, 08:00 AM   #17
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Tha'ts quite a good example Dibrom. But more to do with original image resolution rather than bit rate. I'd be shocked if some films were just cheaply upscaled DVD formats onto a HD-DVD disk.
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Old 09-01-2009, 08:02 AM   #18
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I don't like the Bourne movies so they didn't matter much in HD or DVD. Anyway, olders movies remade into HD isn't worth it but if the movie is good it's preferable in my opinion. [yes]

MMm, I rhink you have your facts muddled up, most post 60's films were infact shot at a higher res than 1920x1080 so infact, they're higher than the highest quality that we have in the home today... any old film can look incredible... I mean, just check Bladerunner... 25+ years old and the final cut is benchmark demo material on HD-DVD and Blu Ray... it's the encode and codec that's used and the quality of the master tape it's taken from that dictates the quality... anything form the past 40 years should be if filmed correctly fantastic... 2001 is another example, watch this and be amazed. VC1 encodes are the standard now, although early Blurays were appalling...

As for Bourne series, I have all three on HD-DVD and they're not the best examples at all... certainly better than DVD BUT not a patch on the best HD examples...

If youw ant some demo material... watch some of these and be astounded... if you don't see the difference between DVD and HD then your'e either blind or your TV isn't calibrated correctly.

Here's some demo material and what format I've got them on:

Bladerunner Final Cut HD-DVD,
King Kong HD-DVD,
Transformers HD-DVD,
WalleE Blu Ray,
Planet Earth Boxset HD-DVD (sensational, probably No.1 for PQ),
Dead Silence HD-DVD,
Pans Labyrinth HD-DVD,
Batman Begins HD-DVD,
Dark Knight Blu Ray,
Hot Fuzz HD-DVD,
Ratatoullie Blu Ray.

Out the 70+ HD films I own, these are probably the ones I'd use to demo my stuff...
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Old 09-01-2009, 08:11 AM   #19
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Tha'ts quite a good example Dibrom. But more to do with original image resolution rather than bit rate. I'd be shocked if some films were just cheaply upscaled DVD formats onto a HD-DVD disk.
The original films are much better quality then anything a Blu-ray or HD-DVD could provide. It's all about compression.
(which is one reason why MS Paint has always sucked)

Same source, same basic algorithm, different bit rate.
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Old 09-01-2009, 08:18 AM   #20
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As for Bourne series, I have all three on HD-DVD and they're not the best examples at all... certainly better than DVD BUT not a patch on the best HD examples...
Sounds to me the OP is just used to really good HD quality and this film has let him down.
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