[robstamps]

blah blah blah.. android ...blah blah blah... I don't like apple blah blah... because they make stuff that works... blah blah blah blah ... I'd rather something crash all the time... blah blah blah. so therefore blah blah blah I can't appreciate something that's well designed... blah yakitty smackitty blah blah blah

there are more games for the iPhone, iPod and iPad than any other platform, and a lot more apps than android, that's for sure. 95% of apps are approved, the reason apps are normally denied are that they don't work properly.

Bluetooth is great, every Apple device has it, even the desktops

But going back to Flash, I'm not a fan at all. It's great for games, and that's about it. I don't think such a closed system should be on the web... just my two cents...

[xrumerang]

there are more games for the iPhone, iPod and iPad than any other platform, and a lot more apps than android, that's for sure. 95% of apps are approved, the reason apps are normally denied are that they don't work properly.

Bluetooth is great, every Apple device has it, even the desktops

But going back to Flash, I'm not a fan at all. It's great for games, and that's about it. I don't think such a closed system should be on the web... just my two cents...

Flash isn't just for game. It's for multimedia presentation. websites and such. It even allows you to have video control within it. Youtube for example. Come on man. It's awesome and you know it. and uh.. can I borrow those 2 cents? I'm trying to make a quarter so I can do laundry.

[!!!maryann!!!]

Flash isn't just for game. It's for multimedia presentation. websites and such. It even allows you to have video control within it. Youtube for example. Come on man. It's awesome and you know it. and uh.. can I borrow those 2 cents? I'm trying to make a quarter so I can do laundry.

lol, sorry, being unemployed right now I need all the cents I can get my hands on!

Regarding Flash, I totally agree with Steve Jobs on this one. Flash was great at first, but it's really had it's day:

First, there’s “Open”.
Adobe’s Flash products are 100% proprietary. They are only available from Adobe, and Adobe has sole authority as to their future enhancement, pricing, etc. While Adobe’s Flash products are widely available, this does not mean they are open, since they are controlled entirely by Adobe and available only from Adobe. By almost any definition, Flash is a closed system.

Second, there’s the “full web”.
Adobe has repeatedly said that Apple mobile devices cannot access “the full web” because 75% of video on the web is in Flash. What they don’t say is that almost all this video is also available in a more modern format, H.264, and viewable on iPhones, iPods and iPads. YouTube, with an estimated 40% of the web’s video, shines in an app bundled on all Apple mobile devices, with the iPad offering perhaps the best YouTube discovery and viewing experience ever. Add to this video from Vimeo, Netflix, Facebook, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, ESPN, NPR, Time, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Sports Illustrated, People, National Geographic, and many, many others. iPhone, iPod and iPad users aren’t missing much video.

Third, there’s reliability, security and performance.
Symantec recently highlighted Flash for having one of the worst security records in 2009. We also know first hand that Flash is the number one reason Macs crash. We have been working with Adobe to fix these problems, but they have persisted for several years now. We don’t want to reduce the reliability and security of our iPhones, iPods and iPads by adding Flash.

Fourth, there’s battery life.
To achieve long battery life when playing video, mobile devices must decode the video in hardware; decoding it in software uses too much power. Many of the chips used in modern mobile devices contain a decoder called H.264 – an industry standard that is used in every Blu-ray DVD player and has been adopted by Apple, Google (YouTube), Vimeo, Netflix and many other companies.

Fifth, there’s Touch.
Flash was designed for PCs using mice, not for touch screens using fingers. For example, many Flash websites rely on “rollovers”, which pop up menus or other elements when the mouse arrow hovers over a specific spot. Apple’s revolutionary multi-touch interface doesn’t use a mouse, and there is no concept of a rollover. Most Flash websites will need to be rewritten to support touch-based devices. If developers need to rewrite their Flash websites, why not use modern technologies like HTML5, CSS and JavaScript?

Sixth, the most important reason.
We know from painful experience that letting a third party layer of software come between the platform and the developer ultimately results in sub-standard apps and hinders the enhancement and progress of the platform. If developers grow dependent on third party development libraries and tools, they can only take advantage of platform enhancements if and when the third party chooses to adopt the new features. We cannot be at the mercy of a third party deciding if and when they will make our enhancements available to our developers.

Read the full article here: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thought...sr=hotnews.rss

[BronUVT]

Don't mine Java, Flash or Shockwave..

What I do mind, is what ever will not let me upgrade, add or alter without it being proprietary..

Then you would not mind html5 if it is adopted as the defacto web standard for media.

I never liked java. But I think flash is important and sad and stupid that apple does not think so. Wether you are using ipad or any other light weight portable device, having a good storage is important and if you ever need to hook up external drive, the device should allow that and have the proper ports. If it will be usb and self powered then yes it will be a huge drain on the battery but not so much if you are connecting to a drive that has its own power supply.

I hope apple never sets "standards" because apple's standards are [MORE control for apple, LESS control by consumers]. I don't buy electronics so the electronics or the company making them could control me. I buy them because I want to control the devices and make my life easier.

There is a balance between consumer convenience and control. The consumer decides what level of control is acceptable. So far as evidenced by sales of the product, Apple has not gone overboard.

[MaigicyuNinia]

lol, sorry, being unemployed right now I need all the cents I can get my hands on!

Regarding Flash, I totally agree with Steve Jobs on this one. Flash was great at first, but it's really had it's day:



Read the full article here: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thought...sr=hotnews.rss

*plugs ears with fingers* I can't hear you, I can't hear you, I can't hear you... na na na na I can't hear you.

[scewLacysmazy]

I found this ANDROID Pad online



http://www.sourcinggate.com/m70003-c...id-p-9287.html

[Edwardthe_third]

Cruise Duration - I'm guessing that's battery life - of 2.5 hours. That's not much. What's the Ipad have?

[wmirkru]

Cruise Duration - I'm guessing that's battery life - of 2.5 hours. That's not much. What's the Ipad have?

only 2.499... actually I don't know.

[minowz]

I would think for something so portable, you'd want at least double that. Is the battery at least replaceable?

[Katoabralia]

According to Apple, the iPad has:

Built-in 25-watt-hour rechargeable lithium-polymer battery
Up to 10 hours of surfing the web on Wi-Fi, watching video, or listening to music
Up to 9 hours of surfing the web using 3G data network
Charging via power adapter or USB to computer system I'm sure those stats aren't quite the reality, probably more like 6hrs.

[xsexymasterix]

According to Apple, the iPad has:



I'm sure those stats aren't quite the reality, probably more like 6hrs.

just like when I tell ladies, I'm hung like a horse, but in reality I'm hung like grain of rice.

[Trebbinsa]

The iPad will rule for certain things. Only questions: what is the impact of no java, versus html5 the new standard Apple is pushing for it's products? And no hard drive? If you are downloading movies it's not a big deal, but you'll need an external portable drive to use your own disks and I'm not sure what impact that would have on the battery or if it is even feasible.

[fgfblog]

The iPad will rule for certain things. Only questions: what is the impact of no java, versus html5 the new standard Apple is pushing for it's products? And no hard drive? If you are downloading movies it's not a big deal, but you'll need an external portable drive to use your own disks and I'm not sure what impact that would have on the battery or if it is even feasible.

I never liked java. But I think flash is important and sad and stupid that apple does not think so. Wether you are using ipad or any other light weight portable device, having a good storage is important and if you ever need to hook up external drive, the device should allow that and have the proper ports. If it will be usb and self powered then yes it will be a huge drain on the battery but not so much if you are connecting to a drive that has its own power supply.

I hope apple never sets "standards" because apple's standards are [MORE control for apple, LESS control by consumers]. I don't buy electronics so the electronics or the company making them could control me. I buy them because I want to control the devices and make my life easier.

[Calluffence]

I never liked java. But I think flash is important and sad and stupid that apple does not think so. Wether you are using ipad or any other light weight portable device, having a good storage is important and if you ever need to hook up external drive, the device should allow that and have the proper ports. If it will be usb and self powered then yes it will be a huge drain on the battery but not so much if you are connecting to a drive that has its own power supply.

I hope apple never sets "standards" because apple's standards are [MORE control for apple, LESS control by consumers]. I don't buy electronics so the electronics or the company making them could control me. I buy them because I want to control the devices and make my life easier.

Don't mine Java, Flash or Shockwave..

What I do mind, is what ever will not let me upgrade, add or alter without it being proprietary..

[EasyLOAD]

Don't mine Java, Flash or Shockwave..

What I do mind, is what ever will not let me upgrade, add or alter without it being proprietary..

Android is OPEN SOURCE. There are bunch of free apps (I would say there are more free ones than pay ones)
well I have android phone and android OS phones aren't exactly proprietary either. you can go with any service provider and they will all have some sort of android phone. ipad you have to stick to att

I have my android phone which gets os updates from verizon automatically. no need to download manually.

[cindygirl]

I never liked java. But I think flash is important and sad and stupid that apple does not think so. Wether you are using ipad or any other light weight portable device, having a good storage is important and if you ever need to hook up external drive, the device should allow that and have the proper ports. If it will be usb and self powered then yes it will be a huge drain on the battery but not so much if you are connecting to a drive that has its own power supply.

I hope apple never sets "standards" because apple's standards are [MORE control for apple, LESS control by consumers]. I don't buy electronics so the electronics or the company making them could control me. I buy them because I want to control the devices and make my life easier.

Apple sets plenty of standards already with hardware like FireWire and software like movie streaming with QuickTime and so forth. All really high quality standards.

I totally disagree about Flash. You say you don't like proprietary stuff but Flash is as proprietary as they come. And it's not just Apple, Firefox have voiced their dislike for Flash too. For me, if I load a page and it's got a flash loader, I'm out of there immediately. It goes against everything the web is about. Roll on HTML5!

As for storage, the point of the iPad is to work alongside a desktop computer. It's not a computer replacement. You need the desktop to sync you media etc, just like with the iPhone.

Don't mine Java, Flash or Shockwave..

What I do mind, is what ever will not let me upgrade, add or alter without it being proprietary..

You can unlock these devices and do what you want with them.

Do you mean upgrade the processor? would you do that on a phone? or a laptop?

Android is OPEN SOURCE. There are bunch of free apps (I would say there are more free ones than pay ones)
well I have android phone and android OS phones aren't exactly proprietary either. you can go with any service provider and they will all have some sort of android phone. ipad you have to stick to att

I have my android phone which gets os updates from verizon automatically. no need to download manually.

Depends on the country: I've got an factory unlocked iPhone, for example, which I can use on any network, the iPad is the same.

[slima]

Android is OPEN SOURCE. There are bunch of free apps (I would say there are more free ones than pay ones)
well I have android phone and android OS phones aren't exactly proprietary either. you can go with any service provider and they will all have some sort of android phone. ipad you have to stick to att

I have my android phone which gets os updates from verizon automatically. no need to download manually.

There are tons of free iPhone/iPad apps out there too... plus the App Store has about 5x the total amount of apps available as the Android Market.

I'm not entirely certain why you're comparing an Android phone with the iPad right now either, because they're two entirely different devices. There are a lot of providers out there that offer Android phones, though in the US, AT&T actually only has three available. I don't think that T-Mobile has many more than that either.

Another thing to note, you're not required to get an iPad with 3G, you can get a WiFi one just fine... you just have to rely on a WiFi connection rather than a 3G to get your data. It tethers you a bit in comparison to 3G, but you don't have to pay that monthly fee.

[AmericaAirline 111]

According to Apple, the iPad has:



I'm sure those stats aren't quite the reality, probably more like 6hrs.

that's probably with things like the screen brightness turned way down and such. But they're probably closoer to reality than most might think. My iPhone 4 battery life is worlds ahead of my old 3G. I can let it go a full day with moderate usage and only drain it 50%.

[Dertrioz]

blah blah blah.. blah blah blah... blah blah... blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. so therefore blah blah yakitty smackitty blah blah blah

well that's all nice and all but...

flash is still good. I like flash.

as far as hardware goes, alot of mobile devices allow you to connect blutooth devices and that's equal on both apple and non-apple products.

as far as software, there are lots of apps for both ipad and android devices... again that's almost an equal.
I think what I like about android is, anyone can design an app for android and do not have to get their app authorized by apple. if people like it they can use it.