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Old 08-22-2012, 05:50 PM   #1
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Democrats suffer from some peculiar form of self-loathing which prevents them from describing themselves as “liberals”, even though they are; and they recoil at the term “socialist” despite it accurately describing their agenda.

And Republicans have no difficulty whatsoever in proclaiming themselves to be “conservatives” and “capitalists”; in fact they boast about it. Their dysfunction comes later when it is time to actually do something conservative or capitalist. And Tim nails another one.

I'm going to post a few of his snippets here..........Those that don't read 'moment of clarity'......should give it a look.
A quarter century of pandering politicians “moving to the middle” has delivered to us the worst of both worlds – a permanent welfare/warfare state that is bankrupting us both economically and morally. Conservatives who fear that we libertarians are some kind of mutant libertine/anarchist hybrid from a different galaxy should take a good look at Governor Gary Johnson’s record in New Mexico. If vetoing bills were an Olympic sport, he would need three more necks just to hold all the medals.

Or better yet, look at his campaign platform – he is our Libertarian Party candidate for President – and tell me specifically where the presumptive GOP nominee has a more conservative position. Here is an appetizer to pique your interest: Johnson would overturn Roe v Wade. Their excuses for why their political philosophy has not worked all boil down to “you did not give us enough of your money”. Right…and the reason my bacon diet did not work is that you did not give me enough of your bacon.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:52 PM   #2
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Who's bitching about a third party spoiler?
Our guy Gary Johnson won’t stand down to ease ’s path to victory and no one should expect him to; and I might remind my more frantic knee-jerk reactive Republican buds that you are the ones that drove him out of your Party in the primaries. He was a Republican running as a Republican until you treated him like dirt, so quit peeing yourself now that you must compete against him.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:53 PM   #3
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Gary Johnson will not trim pennies around the edges of some 10 year fantasy CBO projection; he will gut next year’s budget with a meat axe like Vlad the Impaler.

He is opposed to wars that are not declared by Congress, just like it says in the Constitution we all claim to love so dearly. He vetoed over 700 bills when he was Governor of New Mexico; how many did kill when he had a chance? Johnson was elected and then re-elected in that overwhelmingly Democrat state. To do that, you must siphon off a boatload of Democrat votes away from their guy. Hint…hint…hint.

He will end the insane war on drugs. If that makes him a lunatic, then save me a seat on the fringe. And you can add such doofi (plural of doofus) as Milton Friedman, George Will, William F. Buckley, and Barry Goldwater to the list of us presumptively naïve dumb-ass must-be-stoners who fail to recognize the wisdom of packing our prisons with inner city dads and slaughtering Mexicans on money borrowed from the Chinese while the terminally ill are denied effective pain management. Fast and Furious – there’s your war on drugs.

Use your head, people. There are millions of reasonably sane Democrats who do not want to vote for Act II of Obama’s economic suicide mission that would never, ever, ever vote for …ever. Having Johnson on the ballot in all 50 states gives them somewhere else to go besides the O. Don’t listen to “spoiler” talk from the dipsticks that ran McCain’s losing campaign or the dipsticks running ’s campaign who lost to McCain’s dipsticks last time. And don’t believe the polls, either – they said Walker/Barrett was a toss-up, if you recall. Remember who called it? There you go.


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Old 08-22-2012, 05:57 PM   #4
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Here is an appetizer to pique your interest: Johnson would overturn Roe v Wade. Finally, a libertarian who has his head on straight..

There's far too many "libertarians" who are really just anarchist twats, masquerading as defenders of liberty.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:57 PM   #5
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Republicans are not going to win over the non-aligned by screaming “spoiler” and calling us juveniles or idiots if we don’t obey your orders to shut up and vote for your ticket. Ask our parents if that worked on us as children; rebels don’t turn into sheep just because we added a few decades of rings to our tree.

If the GOP convention adopts some libertarian-friendly platform planks that don’t conflict with conservative goals – audit the Fed is a no-brainer - the GOP can attract all the votes it needs to win without resorting to name-calling or bullying. Libertarians oppose force and fraud on principle; try a little persuasion or (gasp) compromise. A great point there.........repubs in general, (myself included), scream about repubs working with the dims..........I mean if the repubs must back off a stance....why not work with the libertarians instead of the dims?
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:57 PM   #6
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:57 PM   #7
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Finally, a libertarian who has his head on straight..

There's far too many "libertarians" who are really just anarchist twats, masquerading as defenders of liberty.
Amen.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:58 PM   #8
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A great point there.........repubs in general, (myself included), scream about repubs working with the dims..........I mean if the repubs must back off a stance....why not work with the libertarians instead of the dims?
I can list a dozen issues where conservatives and libertarians are on the same page; surely the RNC can find two or three to reach out if they care to. And if they don’t care to, then don’t bitch about the consequences. We’re not going to boil bunnies on your stove, but we will not be ignored, Dan. ----------
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:03 PM   #9
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try a little persuasion or (gasp) compromise. lol.. They know this.

The reason they're more hostile to libertarian principles than they are to liberalism itself is pretty obvious.. There's no money in it.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:05 PM   #10
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lol.. They know this.

The reason they're more hostile to libertarian principles than they are to liberalism itself is pretty obvious.. There's no money in it.
Of course they do.

In response to that.........I offer them this: Republicans are not going to win over the non-aligned by screaming “spoiler” and calling us juveniles or idiots if we don’t obey your orders to shut up and vote for your ticket. Ask our parents if that worked on us as children; rebels don’t turn into sheep just because we added a few decades of rings to our tree.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:06 PM   #11
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lol.. They know this.

The reason they're more hostile to libertarian principles than they are to liberalism itself is pretty obvious.. There's no money in it.

and I might remind my more frantic knee-jerk reactive Republican buds that you are the ones that drove him out of your Party in the primaries. He was a Republican running as a Republican until you treated him like dirt, so quit peeing yourself now that you must compete against him.


The repubs drive out the decent people........and then bitch because they leave the party?

It's like the libs bitching about jobs leaving the US, after they make it unfriendly for businesses to remain here.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:09 PM   #12
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The Olympic Games remind us that choice and competition make us all better – and the Games also remind us why “equality of outcome” makes us all worse. Michael Phelps has way too many medals; nobody really needs that many, so by modern liberal standards he is a greedy and selfish bastard who should be occupied. NICE.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:09 PM   #13
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Their hostility towards principles they claim to hold really just explains it all..

They're fakes.. And they have to say these things to win.

And they know that..

They also know, there's no money in it.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:10 PM   #14
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Who is the victim when I possess a firearm, or if I carry one without a government permission slip? That is a victimless crime - and we oppose laws that restrict our right to keep and bear arms.

Who is the victim if you offer me work at $7.00 per hour and I accept your offer of my own free will? That is a victimless crime - and we object to minimum wage and all other laws that restrict our right to work.

Who is the victim when a farmer sells milk directly to a consumer? That is a victimless crime - and we stand against laws that prevent choice in the market.

We have come down to prosecuting lemonade stands and roll your own shops, banning chicken sandwiches, hounding hair braiders, fining the uninsured Nice.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:10 PM   #15
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Their hostility towards principles they claim to hold really just explains it all..

They're fakes.. And they have to say these things to win.

And they know that..

They also know, there's no money in it.
Yea.

Welfare on the left, vs Warfare on the right.

Pick your poison.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:12 PM   #16
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I'LL SUCK THE COW'S TEATS IF I WANT TO!

FUCK THE GOVERNMENT!
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:13 PM   #17
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Democrats who tear their rotator cuffs patting themselves on the back for insisting the State sanction gay marriage will recoil in horror at extending the same right to polygamists. Why? Any two will do but three’s a felony? Why is the number of hyphens in a modern surname the dividing line between subsidy and crime?

And Republicans who will drive hours to attend a “hands off my health care” rally will be the first to demand that Government come down with both hands clenched into fists on someone else’s health care if it happens to involve cannabis. I have read the Constitution’s enumerated powers hundreds of times and still can’t find “ban plants” listed there. Well said.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:22 PM   #18
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END PROHIBITION NOW.


NO TAXES, NO CRAP.... JUST END IT.
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:11 PM   #19
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My Libertarian friends lose their minds whenever I say something nice about a Republican, and my Republican friends lose their minds whenever I say something nice about a Libertarian. My Democrat friends do not need a reason. lol
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:13 PM   #20
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We libertarians have a different idea about penalties and rewards; we think markets should reward work, God should punish sin, and government should protect our rights. We think that the law should treat everyone equally, not dish out selective penalties and rewards like it were training a puppy.
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