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Old 07-19-2012, 02:23 PM   #1
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Default The Next Conservatism
Conservatism has become so weak in ideas that during the presidency of George W. Bush, the word “conservative” could be and was applied with scant objection to policies that were starkly anti-conservative. Americans witnessed “conservative” Wilsonianism, if not Jacobinism, in foreign policy and an unnecessary foreign war; record “conservative” trade and federal budget deficits; major “conservative” expansions of the power of the federal government at the expense of traditional liberties; and nonchalant “conservative” de-industrialization and dispossession of the middle class in the name of Ricardian free trade and Benthamite utilitarianism. No wonder the American people are confused and disillusioned by conservatism if these are its actions when in power. Were Russell Kirk still with us, what would he now call himself?

http://www.theamericanconservative.c...onservativism/
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:24 PM   #2
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DEMPUBLICAN PROGRESSIVES

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Old 07-19-2012, 02:25 PM   #3
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A lot of truth in that, hoff. But how do we return the country to true conservative thought by giving obama another term. Its a serious question, Please try a serious answer
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:32 PM   #4
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1) Asked and answered..

2) You aren't smart enough to address me.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:41 PM   #5
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1) Asked and answered..

2) You aren't smart enough to address me.
I have more intelligence in my big toe than you have in your entire body. A person that has to resort to insults in every discussion is not a smart person, you are intellectually limited and use insults when you have nothing constructive to offer. You are worse than goatboy in many ways, you pretend to be intelligent and knowledgeable, at least he lets everyone know that he is an idiot from the gitgo.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:46 PM   #6
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Smart people don't run around repeating themselves like you do, Rocat.. Begging the same, stupid, questions over and over and over..

Kill yourself.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:49 PM   #7
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And you won't like this article anyway, dumbass..

It deals with a post Cold War model for Conservatism. One that rejects ideological rigidity and the state.

You're stuck in the old model, because that's really all you have the capacity to understand.

You should cut your head off and burn it..
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:52 PM   #8
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And you won't like this article anyway, dumbass..

It deals with a post Cold War model for Conservatism. One that rejects ideological rigidity and the state.

You're stuck in the old model, because that's really all you have the capacity to understand.

You should cut your head off and burn it..
translation---I don't know what to say so I will hurl some morre juvenile insults.

As to repeating oneself, you and goatboy are the resident experts at that. you are a one trick pony, and he is a one trick goat.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:53 PM   #9
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I don't know what to say so I will hurl some morre juvenile insults. I think I know exactly what to say and I just said it..
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:56 PM   #10
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Good read....
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:00 PM   #11
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Good read....
Thx.. I wish this were the new model.

Sadly, the seem intent on merely replacing the Soviets with a new menace of some sort.. I think the problem with this idea isn't that it's not beneficial, it's that it isn't particularly profitable.

The cold war was worth a lot of money.. Networks of cronies coalesced around that spending. Now, they're very powerful.

You can see the way the GOP reacts to any threat of a defense cut.

I think they just want a new enemy and intend to kick the cold war can down the road.. Now it's the GWOT... But it could be anything, really.

So long as there's an enemy.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:03 PM   #12
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Thx.. I wish this were the new model.

Sadly, the seem intent on merely replacing the Soviets with a new menace of some sort.. I think the problem with this idea isn't that it's not beneficial, it's that it isn't particularly profitable.

The cold war was worth a lot of money.. Networks of cronies coalesced around that spending. Now, they're very powerful.

You can see the way the GOP reacts to any threat of a defense cut.

I think they just want a new enemy and intend to kick the cold war can down the road.. Now it's the GWOT... But it could be anything, really.

So long as there's an enemy.
So the cold war with russia was a creation of the evil defense contractors? Were they in cahoots with Kruschev? Your naivte is really pathetic.

you are a kid, right? 18, 19, maybe 22?
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:06 PM   #13
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So the cold war with russia was a creation of the evil defense contractors? Were they in cahoots with Kruschev? Your naivte is really pathetic.

you are a kid, right? 18, 19, maybe 22?
Rocat.. We are reaching a point where you're just spamming..

Now, I put up with a lot of this.. From a lot of people.

But, it's getting old..
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:13 PM   #14
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Rocat.. We are reaching a point where you're just spamming..

Now, I put up with a lot of this.. From a lot of people.

But, it's getting old..
I am just trying to force you and a few others to THINK. I know its irritating and frustrating, but it seems like the only way to get you off of your mindset. The way you are thinking is counterproductive to fixing our mutual problems, which are very very serious.

I feel like I have to irritate you guys to make you think. Sorry if it offends you. But I have very strong feelings about what is happening to our country.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:16 PM   #15
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I am just trying to force you and a few others to THINK. I know its irritating and frustrating, but it seems like the only way to get you off of your mindset. The way you are thinking is counterproductive to fixing our mutual problems, which are very very serious.

I feel like I have to irritate you guys to make you think. Sorry if it offends you. But I have very strong feelings about what is happening to our country.
There's no delicate way to put this: You don't have the capacity to overcome me here..

I find you ignorant and annoying. I find your thoughts to be inane... Your entire mindset is juvenile.

I'm not voting for Mitt . Just accept that and move on.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:23 PM   #16
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And we spent over a trillion bucks.. In yesterday's dollars.. on the Cold War..

That's a lot of money, and you can be sure there's people who didn't want to see the gravy train roll to a stop.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:46 PM   #17
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PERPETUAL CRISIS.
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:32 PM   #18
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And we spent over a trillion bucks.. In yesterday's dollars.. on the Cold War..

That's a lot of money, and you can be sure there's people who didn't want to see the gravy train roll to a stop.
Look, what's a trillion here and there............I mean didn't it really ADD to the economy, by making all those people rich, and then taxing them?
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:08 PM   #19
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Look, what's a trillion here and there............I mean didn't it really ADD to the economy, by making all those people rich, and then taxing them?
HAHAHAHHAHA.. If it were only that easy!
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:08 PM   #20
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Broken Windows..
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