Your right! sorry I never re- posted on that thread but I think im leaning towards Ukc style apbt but im not sure if I can find those in my price range and JoeBingo, Im not really seriously looking right now, Probably not until early next year but from what ive read it is good to start researching early. and to answer your questions 1- I want a dog that I am able to show when im ready for that, But also a dog with great athletic history, I hike, run, swim, and take trips to the mountains regularly and I dont want a dog that is easy to "over-do" 2-Most likely UKC apbt 3-No bloodlines that are my favorite I would like to buy from a breeder I know and trust thats why I am making threads like this to gain more knowledge of the different breeders,bloodlines etc.