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**Eunatis** · 05-27-2006, 02:40 PM

C'mon, you sound like a salesman. Very few average golfers will see any difference in their games because of the equipment they buy. They would be much better off spending that $400 for a new driver or $300 for new putter on golf lessons.

How can the lofts on my clubs be "out of whack" if they're my clubs? I know what they do, how far they fly and what shape. It's the swing I put on them that matters.

I have well-heeled buddies that spend more on one club than I have in my whole bag. I still beat them. There's a definite psychological effect in this game about buying new equipment...don't know why it is, but guys play better with new clubs...for a few weeks. Then it's back to the same old same old...guaranteed.

The "1" handicap on my team has used the same irons since high school. He won a state championship with them. Whenever we complain about our game, he's the first to point out, "It ain't the club."

Sure good equipment maximizes your potential to play the game well. But for the vast majority of golfers, good, decent, average priced equipment is all that they need. Buying high priced stuff is delusional.

Once you get down to a 5 handicap or less, then you can worry about equipment.

Well this is exactly my point. It's about finding something that works for you. I know a 2 handicapp that uses the oldest set of pings I have ever seen. Same goes for putters, now I don't know your buddy but it sounds as if he's not a good golfer just buys expensive stuff, but for the 10 handicapp and below, it makes senese to spend money on something you use more than any other club in your bag in a given round.

Your piont that golfers should buy good decent equipment is right on. Moreover should be equipment that fits their game, (i.e. if they can shape the ball, muscle backs, if they need game improvement sticks, cavity backed).

Your lofts can be out of whack even though they are your clubs because many times we would see sets of clubs come in with a different scale of steps between clubs in terms of loft. What this will do, is give you "gaps" between clubs as most lofts are set up for a 10 yard variation between clubs. If you have improper lofts, I have seen a 20 yard variation and even worse. That's the real problem.

Example: My buddy hit his iron with his ping knockoff clubs about 170, I hit mine 160ish, but I am a MUCH better golfer. Problem was, he hit his 5 iron 180. We took it to the shop and measured the lofts, low and behold the 5 iron loft was close to being right on, but his 8 iron was multiple degrees strong.

Now he purchased a set of Mizuno irons and his 8 iron flies no more than 150.

05-27-2006, 02:40 PM	#20
Eunatis Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 507 Senior Member	C'mon, you sound like a salesman. Very few average golfers will see any difference in their games because of the equipment they buy. They would be much better off spending that $400 for a new driver or $300 for new putter on golf lessons. How can the lofts on my clubs be "out of whack" if they're my clubs? I know what they do, how far they fly and what shape. It's the swing I put on them that matters. I have well-heeled buddies that spend more on one club than I have in my whole bag. I still beat them. There's a definite psychological effect in this game about buying new equipment...don't know why it is, but guys play better with new clubs...for a few weeks. Then it's back to the same old same old...guaranteed. The "1" handicap on my team has used the same irons since high school. He won a state championship with them. Whenever we complain about our game, he's the first to point out, "It ain't the club." Sure good equipment maximizes your potential to play the game well. But for the vast majority of golfers, good, decent, average priced equipment is all that they need. Buying high priced stuff is delusional. Once you get down to a 5 handicap or less, then you can worry about equipment. Well this is exactly my point. It's about finding something that works for you. I know a 2 handicapp that uses the oldest set of pings I have ever seen. Same goes for putters, now I don't know your buddy but it sounds as if he's not a good golfer just buys expensive stuff, but for the 10 handicapp and below, it makes senese to spend money on something you use more than any other club in your bag in a given round. Your piont that golfers should buy good decent equipment is right on. Moreover should be equipment that fits their game, (i.e. if they can shape the ball, muscle backs, if they need game improvement sticks, cavity backed). Your lofts can be out of whack even though they are your clubs because many times we would see sets of clubs come in with a different scale of steps between clubs in terms of loft. What this will do, is give you "gaps" between clubs as most lofts are set up for a 10 yard variation between clubs. If you have improper lofts, I have seen a 20 yard variation and even worse. That's the real problem. Example: My buddy hit his iron with his ping knockoff clubs about 170, I hit mine 160ish, but I am a MUCH better golfer. Problem was, he hit his 5 iron 180. We took it to the shop and measured the lofts, low and behold the 5 iron loft was close to being right on, but his 8 iron was multiple degrees strong. Now he purchased a set of Mizuno irons and his 8 iron flies no more than 150.
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