Ok swab... THIS time you really had me laughing OUT LOUD. You poor dear...does the trauma ever end? Definately a carb addiction... I love bread too but gave up virtually ALL of it years ago when I decided to cut my carbs and managed to lose 35 lbs and keep it off. For years, I bought into the hype, and ate bagels or pita. They're low fat of course, but if you check the labels, they're higher in carbs than most every other 'bread'.... who knew?? The only 'bread' I allow myself to eat now are things like Ryvita or Wasa, like you said... I read the labels and check the carbs. Also, unless you go and do a little bit of research online, most people are unaware that wheat 'ain't what it used to be'. Almost all has been genetically tampered with, along with the soil it's grown in. It's definately an addiction you can 'detox' from, once you fill that gap with other things like organic veggies and protein. Never was much of a pasta person myself... but same with pasta...made from wheat. The marketing now days is very clever, to convince us that 'whole grain', or spinach pasta, etc. etc. is better, but it's really not. Hopes this gives you some insite TSW.... the wheat thing is the nemesis for alot of us.....