I've wrestled with this argument for a very long time. People who express this are revealing their own sense of intellectual superiority to the average man. What I see isn't stupidity. It's brainwashing, and very tight control over their incomes and finances that makes them behave and think the way they do. Some people resist the brainwashing, and can't cut through to others still under its influence, so they attribute this frustration to stupidity. For god's sake, think what it was like for you before you 'wised up'. Were you stoopid way back then? Have a little empathy for these folks, they'll come around sooner than most of us think. Hatha