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**cakaeroryrere** · 06-11-2011, 03:44 AM

How are they from Ahlul Kitab while they believe that the Quran present today is incomplete and it had been changed by the companions of the Prophet .

Don't lie. Remember: Allah's curse is upon the liars.

The majority, accepted opinion of the Shia Ulema' is that the Qur'an we have today is complete, free from any type of adulteration. We believe the Qur'an has undergone Tahreef, without doubt, but in its interpretation (Tafsir) only.

The bit about the Imam (may Allah [swt] hasten his reappearance) having a more complete Qur'an is reported in ahadith, but that doesn't render the Qur'an we read incomplete. The Qur'an he has is only 'more complete', because it has detailed explanations and tafsir of the verses in the Qur'an (which are essentially not part of the Qur'an). From Tafsir al Burhan (this is Imam Ali (a) speaking) :
"O Talha, every ayah that was revealed to the Prophet (‘s) by Allah is with me, dictated by the Prophet (‘s) and in my handwriting. And an explanation to every ayah in respect of that which is permissible, forbidden, penal code, laws or things of which this ummah may stand in need till the dawn of qiyamah. They are with me dictated by the Prophet (‘s) and written in my own hand, even the blood money required to compensate a scratch"

That fact that Imam Ali (a) had his own 'version' of the Qur'an is one that has been asserted in Sunni literature too. For example, in Izalat al Akhfa by Shah Waliullah.

My honest advice to you would be to remain silent on matters you are not knowledgeable about and to not spread hearsay, as it is tantamount to slander and causes nothing but unnecessary confusion.

Shes from ahlul kitab so its fine. If you get married inshallah you can slowly convince her

Although I would be least concerned about what others think of the Imamiyyah, I'm curious to know what makes us Kitabis?

06-11-2011, 03:44 AM	#15
cakaeroryrere Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 413 Senior Member	How are they from Ahlul Kitab while they believe that the Quran present today is incomplete and it had been changed by the companions of the Prophet . Don't lie. Remember: Allah's curse is upon the liars. The majority, accepted opinion of the Shia Ulema' is that the Qur'an we have today is complete, free from any type of adulteration. We believe the Qur'an has undergone Tahreef, without doubt, but in its interpretation (Tafsir) only. The bit about the Imam (may Allah [swt] hasten his reappearance) having a more complete Qur'an is reported in ahadith, but that doesn't render the Qur'an we read incomplete. The Qur'an he has is only 'more complete', because it has detailed explanations and tafsir of the verses in the Qur'an (which are essentially not part of the Qur'an). From Tafsir al Burhan (this is Imam Ali (a) speaking) : "O Talha, every ayah that was revealed to the Prophet (‘s) by Allah is with me, dictated by the Prophet (‘s) and in my handwriting. And an explanation to every ayah in respect of that which is permissible, forbidden, penal code, laws or things of which this ummah may stand in need till the dawn of qiyamah. They are with me dictated by the Prophet (‘s) and written in my own hand, even the blood money required to compensate a scratch" That fact that Imam Ali (a) had his own 'version' of the Qur'an is one that has been asserted in Sunni literature too. For example, in Izalat al Akhfa by Shah Waliullah. My honest advice to you would be to remain silent on matters you are not knowledgeable about and to not spread hearsay, as it is tantamount to slander and causes nothing but unnecessary confusion. Shes from ahlul kitab so its fine. If you get married inshallah you can slowly convince her Although I would be least concerned about what others think of the Imamiyyah, I'm curious to know what makes us Kitabis?
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