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**ananciguinter** · 06-12-2011, 10:56 AM

He probably doesn't mean "Version" he means "copy".

If so, then why does he mention that particularly?

Answer from their books:

1. Any human being who claims to have collected the Quran in its complete form is a liar. Only Ali [

] and the Imams collected it all and preserved it." (Al-usool min al-Kafi 1:228).

2. I said to Imam Ali Musa (the 8th Imam), "we hear from you Quranic verses which we have not learned. Are we committing sins by not reciting them?' The Imam said 'No, read the way you have learned. Someone will come to teach you' referring to the 12th Imam who will reappear and bring with him the complete version according to the Shiite belief" (Al-Kafi min al-Usool 2:663; also see al Khateeb P.11).

3. A certain person recited unto Abu Abd Allah (Imam Jaffar Saddiq) a verse (from the Quran) and I was listening to the letter from the Quran which people generally do not recite in that manner. Abu Abd Allah asked him: "Abstain from that reading. Read it as the people read it, till an Imam (leader), twelfth Imam is commissioned. When the twelfth Imam is commissioned, He will read The book of Allah, The Mighty, The majectic. He will read it in his own peculiar way. He will take out the copy of the Quran which Ali wrote in his own hand. Then He added: Ali brought it out for the people when he had finished with its transcription. (Ali) said to the people: "This is the book of Allah, The Mighty, The Majestic, as Allah had revealed it unto Muhammad Peace of Allah be upon him and upon his prosperity -- and I've collected it in the two boards. People said: We do have us a complete copy of the Quran: We do not need yours. (Ali) said: "You will never find it again after this day: It was however my bounden duty to tell you that I have collected the Quran that you may read it. (Al-Kafi 2:633, Tehran).

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ananciguinter Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	He probably doesn't mean "Version" he means "copy". If so, then why does he mention that particularly? Answer from their books: 1. Any human being who claims to have collected the Quran in its complete form is a liar. Only Ali [] and the Imams collected it all and preserved it." (Al-usool min al-Kafi 1:228). 2. I said to Imam Ali Musa (the 8th Imam), "we hear from you Quranic verses which we have not learned. Are we committing sins by not reciting them?' The Imam said 'No, read the way you have learned. Someone will come to teach you' referring to the 12th Imam who will reappear and bring with him the complete version according to the Shiite belief" (Al-Kafi min al-Usool 2:663; also see al Khateeb P.11). 3. A certain person recited unto Abu Abd Allah (Imam Jaffar Saddiq) a verse (from the Quran) and I was listening to the letter from the Quran which people generally do not recite in that manner. Abu Abd Allah asked him: "Abstain from that reading. Read it as the people read it, till an Imam (leader), twelfth Imam is commissioned. When the twelfth Imam is commissioned, He will read The book of Allah, The Mighty, The majectic. He will read it in his own peculiar way. He will take out the copy of the Quran which Ali wrote in his own hand. Then He added: Ali brought it out for the people when he had finished with its transcription. (Ali) said to the people: "This is the book of Allah, The Mighty, The Majestic, as Allah had revealed it unto Muhammad Peace of Allah be upon him and upon his prosperity -- and I've collected it in the two boards. People said: We do have us a complete copy of the Quran: We do not need yours. (Ali) said: "You will never find it again after this day: It was however my bounden duty to tell you that I have collected the Quran that you may read it. (Al-Kafi 2:633, Tehran).
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