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**grattperret** · 01-11-2007, 07:24 AM

Cheese and rice! Well, better safe than sorry, I suppose. Everyone's understandably jumpy in that situation.

Well Chaz, with all due respect, isn't that just another step in the erosion of civil liberties and the creation of a police state?

"Well golly, he looked suspicious to me (or we opened his mail or listened in on his telephone conversations or went through his trash or monitored his e-mail or did a search of the internet to see who was looking at certain tagged photos or videos) so we broke into his house and dragged him and his family out into the street at gunpoint in the middle of the night and did body cavity searches on them. Better safe than sorry."

Need I remind you of the words of Benjamin Franklin?

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

What is the solution? How about training the police better so they don't have the "Break out the black ninjer suits and set up fields of fire" attitude all of the time.

I know this is Canada but the same applies to the U.S. You want safety? Let's just change the constitution and let a bunch of guys, a large percentage of whom are not qualified to be bag boys in the Piggly Wiggly, decide who is suspicious. Let them set up check points all over the place and stop and search people for no reason at all just to make sure they are not up to no good.
This is necessary because the State is more important than the individual.

Wait a minute. . . didn't they try that in Russia? Nice theory but doesn't work in practice because the people doing the searching never understood the philosophical reasoning, they were just looking for a better job with more money and personal power.

End of my rant. . .

01-11-2007, 07:24 AM	#10
grattperret Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	Cheese and rice! Well, better safe than sorry, I suppose. Everyone's understandably jumpy in that situation. Well Chaz, with all due respect, isn't that just another step in the erosion of civil liberties and the creation of a police state? "Well golly, he looked suspicious to me (or we opened his mail or listened in on his telephone conversations or went through his trash or monitored his e-mail or did a search of the internet to see who was looking at certain tagged photos or videos) so we broke into his house and dragged him and his family out into the street at gunpoint in the middle of the night and did body cavity searches on them. Better safe than sorry." Need I remind you of the words of Benjamin Franklin? "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." What is the solution? How about training the police better so they don't have the "Break out the black ninjer suits and set up fields of fire" attitude all of the time. I know this is Canada but the same applies to the U.S. You want safety? Let's just change the constitution and let a bunch of guys, a large percentage of whom are not qualified to be bag boys in the Piggly Wiggly, decide who is suspicious. Let them set up check points all over the place and stop and search people for no reason at all just to make sure they are not up to no good. This is necessary because the State is more important than the individual. Wait a minute. . . didn't they try that in Russia? Nice theory but doesn't work in practice because the people doing the searching never understood the philosophical reasoning, they were just looking for a better job with more money and personal power. End of my rant. . .
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