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**Green_Monkey23** · 12-03-2006, 11:09 PM

Pianoman, oh yes there is. Why dont you take a trip to some third world countries?.... pehaps Eastern Europe, a hell hole like Albania comes to mind. Or you could even come here to Italy, to see Mafia governed areas in the South where zoning is ignored.

I won't pretend to know what kinds of policies are used in places like Albania or Southern Italy. I don't think, however, that those are appropriate examples to raise. In both instances, in fact, people were/are in charge of making decisions about development, but it was not within the context of an open market. Albania was socialist, and Southern Italy is, as you say, ruled by mafiosos. Surely you must know that socialism or a small, powerful group of crime families would be the last alternatives to our American system of zoning that I would recommend. In both cases, the resulting "hell holes" are undoubtedly bleaker still because of other factors, such as the civil wars in Albania and inept government rule that maintained a depressed economy. Let's try to stick to examples that are easily applicable to things as they are here.

No it did not. Thats why zoning laws were created. That article was written for those will a superficial Disney-fied view of the past. What do you mean by "it did not"? Things didn't get built, the city didn't thrive? Please elaborate on this. And if you aren't familiar with it, the idea of zoning and the eventual laws created were in direct response to a single building.

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Green_Monkey23 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 421 Senior Member	Pianoman, oh yes there is. Why dont you take a trip to some third world countries?.... pehaps Eastern Europe, a hell hole like Albania comes to mind. Or you could even come here to Italy, to see Mafia governed areas in the South where zoning is ignored. I won't pretend to know what kinds of policies are used in places like Albania or Southern Italy. I don't think, however, that those are appropriate examples to raise. In both instances, in fact, people were/are in charge of making decisions about development, but it was not within the context of an open market. Albania was socialist, and Southern Italy is, as you say, ruled by mafiosos. Surely you must know that socialism or a small, powerful group of crime families would be the last alternatives to our American system of zoning that I would recommend. In both cases, the resulting "hell holes" are undoubtedly bleaker still because of other factors, such as the civil wars in Albania and inept government rule that maintained a depressed economy. Let's try to stick to examples that are easily applicable to things as they are here. No it did not. Thats why zoning laws were created. That article was written for those will a superficial Disney-fied view of the past. What do you mean by "it did not"? Things didn't get built, the city didn't thrive? Please elaborate on this. And if you aren't familiar with it, the idea of zoning and the eventual laws created were in direct response to a single building.
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