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**HaseBeceDeemy** · 01-07-2012, 07:51 AM

So pretty much you would agree that we should penalize law-abiding citizens because of the existence of criminals. What a wonderfully horrible idea.
How about instead we realize that the problem is not with the guns, nor the people buying "arsenals" legally. The problem is...criminals. (Surprise! [rolleyes]) In order to fix a problem, the root cause needs to be identified first. Of course, judging by your comments, you don't want to identify the root cause, because you'd rather see the Second Amendment slowly destroyed. Your real angle isn't to reduce crime. You're simply using crime as a reason to disarm the population. What you fail to realize is that the criminals will always get weapons. If you were actually concerned with reducing crime and making the world a safer place, you would deal with the problem at hand, instead of putting up a smoke screen to veil an agenda. [thumbdown]

see, this is where you freak out because you are irrational. No where have I said we should disarm the population. Not allowing arsenals would not disarm the nation. It would simply limit the number to a reasonable 4-5 guns per person. That is not disarming anyone. It is just getting rid of unnecessary weapons caches that are no where near as secure as they should be and coinflips at best that they won't one day be stolen. You know, the type thing our soldiers do to the countries we invade to make them safe. I am not against guns. I am against arsenals. I see a constitutional right to bare arms, not horde them.

01-07-2012, 07:51 AM	#13
HaseBeceDeemy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	So pretty much you would agree that we should penalize law-abiding citizens because of the existence of criminals. What a wonderfully horrible idea. How about instead we realize that the problem is not with the guns, nor the people buying "arsenals" legally. The problem is...criminals. (Surprise! [rolleyes]) In order to fix a problem, the root cause needs to be identified first. Of course, judging by your comments, you don't want to identify the root cause, because you'd rather see the Second Amendment slowly destroyed. Your real angle isn't to reduce crime. You're simply using crime as a reason to disarm the population. What you fail to realize is that the criminals will always get weapons. If you were actually concerned with reducing crime and making the world a safer place, you would deal with the problem at hand, instead of putting up a smoke screen to veil an agenda. [thumbdown] see, this is where you freak out because you are irrational. No where have I said we should disarm the population. Not allowing arsenals would not disarm the nation. It would simply limit the number to a reasonable 4-5 guns per person. That is not disarming anyone. It is just getting rid of unnecessary weapons caches that are no where near as secure as they should be and coinflips at best that they won't one day be stolen. You know, the type thing our soldiers do to the countries we invade to make them safe. I am not against guns. I am against arsenals. I see a constitutional right to bare arms, not horde them.
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