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**TeLMgNva** · 02-08-2012, 07:02 PM

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Asalaam aleykum,

This should have been the most powerful country in the world but its really frustrating. I understand progress takes a long time to achieve but being the birthplace of deen, this country would have more influence in Africa, Latin America, Asia and Europe but guess what? Nothing....I mean PIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain) are selling off everything to the Chinese and guess what? KSA is no where to be seen, basically Saudi's would have bought everything worth buying in these countries, and in return there would be so much leverage not only in mutual respect but also transfer of technology and of course Muslims wouldn't be facing the humiliation they are facing at the moment.

But guess what? dont bet on it. Why? Because there are interesting paradoxes in Saudi society—where women are forbidden to drive but are more likely to attend universities than men, I think its about time Saudis come out from the shell and start to play a major role in the world otherwise Turkey under the AK party will trounce them. I couldnt believe my eyes when world media showed Turkish PM and his wife PLUS countless delegation in Mogadishu1 I mean that was so courageous of Tayip. I mean Saudis should have been involved but they are no where to be seen. Ohhh btw Turkey will reopen their embassy in Mogadishu. I mean isnt this what brotherhood is all about?

Jumaa Kareem

why would turkey "trounce" saudi when they are partners and allies

the time for becoming a power isnt yet. first we need as many sunni governments in power as possible, all allied to one another inshAllah and with islamic minded leaders. Ten we need development programmes on infrastures and jobs. Then when we are strong enough to become dominant without being invaded THEN we can become dominant world powers inshAllah

turkey and saudi are currently focusing on removing assad, the next key step in teh first step of the plan i outlined i.e.:

"first we need as many sunni governments in power as possible, all allied to one another inshAllah and with islamic minded leaders"

after syria, I think getting any more islamic governments will be hard so we need to focus on cementing our rule in turkey, saudi, egypt, tunisia, syria and possibly get the ball rolling on alliances with less secular countries like moroccoa, indonesia, malaysia, jordan etc inshAllah

once we've done all we can to create an islamic alliance in a NATO/EU style with joint currency etc, we can look to phase 2 inshAllah. If you want us to become and up and coming power this will take time inshAllah and will take muslims supporting them and not being blinded by racism and sectarianism and loking at every little fault of muslim rulers.

we should wish both turkey and saudi well

sadly if saudi achieve something and i post it here, people will not be happy, they will be bitter and post negative messages so this shows our mentality

02-08-2012, 07:02 PM	#4
TeLMgNva Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 580 Senior Member	[Mod clip] Asalaam aleykum, This should have been the most powerful country in the world but its really frustrating. I understand progress takes a long time to achieve but being the birthplace of deen, this country would have more influence in Africa, Latin America, Asia and Europe but guess what? Nothing....I mean PIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain) are selling off everything to the Chinese and guess what? KSA is no where to be seen, basically Saudi's would have bought everything worth buying in these countries, and in return there would be so much leverage not only in mutual respect but also transfer of technology and of course Muslims wouldn't be facing the humiliation they are facing at the moment. But guess what? dont bet on it. Why? Because there are interesting paradoxes in Saudi society—where women are forbidden to drive but are more likely to attend universities than men, I think its about time Saudis come out from the shell and start to play a major role in the world otherwise Turkey under the AK party will trounce them. I couldnt believe my eyes when world media showed Turkish PM and his wife PLUS countless delegation in Mogadishu1 I mean that was so courageous of Tayip. I mean Saudis should have been involved but they are no where to be seen. Ohhh btw Turkey will reopen their embassy in Mogadishu. I mean isnt this what brotherhood is all about? Jumaa Kareem why would turkey "trounce" saudi when they are partners and allies the time for becoming a power isnt yet. first we need as many sunni governments in power as possible, all allied to one another inshAllah and with islamic minded leaders. Ten we need development programmes on infrastures and jobs. Then when we are strong enough to become dominant without being invaded THEN we can become dominant world powers inshAllah turkey and saudi are currently focusing on removing assad, the next key step in teh first step of the plan i outlined i.e.: "first we need as many sunni governments in power as possible, all allied to one another inshAllah and with islamic minded leaders" after syria, I think getting any more islamic governments will be hard so we need to focus on cementing our rule in turkey, saudi, egypt, tunisia, syria and possibly get the ball rolling on alliances with less secular countries like moroccoa, indonesia, malaysia, jordan etc inshAllah once we've done all we can to create an islamic alliance in a NATO/EU style with joint currency etc, we can look to phase 2 inshAllah. If you want us to become and up and coming power this will take time inshAllah and will take muslims supporting them and not being blinded by racism and sectarianism and loking at every little fault of muslim rulers. we should wish both turkey and saudi well sadly if saudi achieve something and i post it here, people will not be happy, they will be bitter and post negative messages so this shows our mentality
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