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**mealiusarses** · 07-06-2008, 11:30 AM

The article wasn't written by a McCain supporter I didn't assert that was the case. Just pointing out a simple fact.

As for the article, it's pretty ridiculous. It's a combination of paint-huffing fantasy ( The first is his tax policy. This would raise the top marginal rate of federal income tax in the US on those earning $250,000 a year to more than 56 per cent. , his primary campaign pledge to dismantle the North American Free Trade Agreement ), lack of an actual recent change in positions - what a "flip flop" constitutes ( opposition to another that outlawed the death penalty for rape of a child.
), failure to understand the First Amendment and how the left interprets it ( a programme that channels funds to religious groups so that they can deliver social welfare services, which the Left regards as a heinous blurring of Church-State separation. ), and general idiocy (
The other challenge is Iraq. Mr Obama continues to insist that Iraq is a failed war and says that he will withdraw all US combat troops within 16 months of taking office. But the closer the election gets, the less plausible it will be to refuse to acknowledge the success that US forces have had in Iraq in the past year. ).

There are a few points where there are real flip flops. He switched his mind about the constitutionality of handgun bans, but that's the "major issue" that a care the least about, and one that I'd argue is completely peripheral to personal liberty and crime policy. He promised the left that he'd filibuster a FISA compromise that included telecom amnesty, but now indicates that he probably would vote for one (and would fight to get it out of the bill before it comes to a vote), but that skirts the major issue regardless - on the NSA datamining program, where Obama was always weak from the perspective of civil libertarians. And on NAFTA, he has gone from saying that he'd unilaterally start a renegotiation of NAFTA to a more multilateral stance - which amounts to a hill of beans in either case.

But the point is, all this is nothing compared to what McCain has gone through over the past few years.

07-06-2008, 11:30 AM	#12
mealiusarses Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 379 Senior Member	The article wasn't written by a McCain supporter I didn't assert that was the case. Just pointing out a simple fact. As for the article, it's pretty ridiculous. It's a combination of paint-huffing fantasy ( The first is his tax policy. This would raise the top marginal rate of federal income tax in the US on those earning $250,000 a year to more than 56 per cent. , his primary campaign pledge to dismantle the North American Free Trade Agreement ), lack of an actual recent change in positions - what a "flip flop" constitutes ( opposition to another that outlawed the death penalty for rape of a child. ), failure to understand the First Amendment and how the left interprets it ( a programme that channels funds to religious groups so that they can deliver social welfare services, which the Left regards as a heinous blurring of Church-State separation. ), and general idiocy ( The other challenge is Iraq. Mr Obama continues to insist that Iraq is a failed war and says that he will withdraw all US combat troops within 16 months of taking office. But the closer the election gets, the less plausible it will be to refuse to acknowledge the success that US forces have had in Iraq in the past year. ). There are a few points where there are real flip flops. He switched his mind about the constitutionality of handgun bans, but that's the "major issue" that a care the least about, and one that I'd argue is completely peripheral to personal liberty and crime policy. He promised the left that he'd filibuster a FISA compromise that included telecom amnesty, but now indicates that he probably would vote for one (and would fight to get it out of the bill before it comes to a vote), but that skirts the major issue regardless - on the NSA datamining program, where Obama was always weak from the perspective of civil libertarians. And on NAFTA, he has gone from saying that he'd unilaterally start a renegotiation of NAFTA to a more multilateral stance - which amounts to a hill of beans in either case. But the point is, all this is nothing compared to what McCain has gone through over the past few years.
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