[mxzjxluwst]

So I am interested in this stuff. Why do many Turks believe in a Turan race? Why do many Turks think to be fairer than their neighbours?

[KkJvrG4d]

why are you calling it "turkish nordicism" exactly?
and why are they thinking they are fairer than their neighbors(if they do, like you say)??? My best guess would have to be inferiority complexes. Which is stupid considering they ruled over the Balkan not so long ago.

[7UENf0w7]

why are you calling it "turkish nordicism" exactly?

I've seen many Turks thinking that Turks are mostly blondes, blue eyed and pale skinned.

[doksSirmAdods]

It's a common thing for anthroboard posters from our region - Aryan Armenians, Nordic Ossetians, Georgians, the forefathers of Basques () and etc.

[bF8CCmmr]

I've seen many Turks thinking that Turks are mostly blondes, blue eyed and pale skinned.

But how can they think that, if they're turks? don't they know how their family look? don't they know how turks look? turks are dark-haired and dark-eyed. Jews are blonder than them. how stupid can those turks that you talked to possibly be?
where is the border that stupidity actually stops? can anyone help me please?>

[huylibizonoff]

But how can they think that, if they're turks? don't they know how their family look? don't they know how turks look? turks are dark-haired and dark-eyed. Jews are blonder than them. how stupid can those turks that you talked to possibly be?

They can simply come from fair looking families or have most of relatives who look fair. For example most of my relatives and family memebers look pretty White (Euro) with the exception of my Dad and couple other relatives.

[FloareTraurne]

They can simply come from fair looking families or have most of relatives who look fair. For example most of my relatives and family memebers look pretty White (Euro) with the exception of my Dad and couple other relatives.

yeah but seriously, don't they know how their fellow countryman look?

and also since turks look much less european than georgians the possibility of their families being fair is reduced. LOL some people think my brother, who isjewish, looks german.
botto line: turks are stupid, and on top of that they want to transfer their stupidity to us through neo-ottomanism

[Haftdrarp]

On one side of Turkey is Europe, where the modern world was invented and almost all of mankind's greatest achievements were created.

On the other side are countries like Iran and Syria, where governments do who knows what to their people.

Wouldn't you want to associate yourself with one rather than the other?

[LottiFurmann]

On one side of Turkey is Europe, where the modern world was invented and almost all of mankind's greatest achievements were created.

On the other side are countries like Iran and Syria, where governments do who knows what to their people.

Wouldn't you want to associate yourself with one rather than the other?

a) it does'nt matter what they want, they have to acknowledge the truth.
b) their own government is not so far from syria or iran. it's just a little better. they're far from being a democracy.
c) I have no problems to associate myself with syria GENETICALLY. culturally Israelis are not europeans, nor are we arabic in culture. we have a unique culture that is special and can't fall under regular categories. I feel more connected to a Druze(google the word if you don't know what it means) who serve in the army than italins or greeks, and i would prefer to associate myself with the Druze and not the Greek.
I don't get why would turks want to associate themselves with nords, since they make fun of themselves.

[VowJoyday]

On one side of Turkey is Europe, where the modern world was invented and almost all of mankind's greatest achievements were created.

[85IbLcwQ]

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[ballerturfali]

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Please don't conduct it here guys.

[SoftrermaBioniaSat]

yeah but seriously, don't they know how their fellow countryman look?

and also since turks look much less european than georgians the possibility of their families being fair is reduced. LOL some people think my brother, who isjewish, looks german.
botto line: turks are stupid, and on top of that they want to transfer their stupidity to us through neo-ottomanism

Turks are somewhat swarthier than Georgians on average but they have people in the West who are both genetically and phenotypically substantially more Euro than Georgians.

[education]

I have not seen Turkish people trying to be "something else". They seem proud of the phenotypes and/or culture.

[9V4i8xw1]

I have not seen Turkish people trying to be "something else".

They do. They always insist Chinese sources describe ancient Turkics as blond and blue-eyed (while in reality the descriptions are of Iranics), that the word Cuman means blond (while it does not), and the like. Turks are hopelessly confused about their racial and ethnic identity, just like Finns are. I once described it as the Fenno-Turkish syndrome:

I believe it is time we describe a condition which I would call the Fenno-Turkish Syndrome. It so happened that Finns and Turks are the westernmost representatives of their ethno-linguistic families (Finnic and Turkic respectively). They are more European in genetic and anthropological terms than their eastern kinsmen, and also more developed. This makes Finns and Turks look at other Finnic and Turkic ethnicities condescendingly.

At the same time Finnish and Turkic nationalists like any other nationalists seek inspiration from their ancient cultures, which makes them turn to their less civilized eastern brethren, who have preserved those cultures much better. An example can be seen in the use of national epics. The Finnish national identity is centered around the Kalevala, which is based on epic songs of Russian Karelians. Finns proper have no epic songs of their own. Anatolian Turks also have no epic songs of their own and have to seek inspiration in the epics of their eastern Oghuz kinsmen.

Finns and Turks aspire to be as Western and European as possible. They also aspire to be leaders of their respective ethno-linguistic families. But the kinship with uncivilized eastern ethnicities with a strong Mongoloid component compromises their Western and European status. This generates a complicated love-hate attitude, exactly which I would call the Fenno-Turkish Syndrome.

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/sho...ighlight=Fenno

[Bvghbopz]

^^
That thread has 27 pages. Will read them tonight, and post back my views. Thanks, though for the link.

[Plokiikmol]

yeah but seriously, don't they know how their fellow countryman look?

and also since turks look much less european than georgians the possibility of their families being fair is reduced. LOL some people think my brother, who isjewish, looks german.
botto line: turks are stupid, and on top of that they want to transfer their stupidity to us through neo-ottomanism

That is because he probably is (or a Pole or something)

[DF9sLGSU]

that is because he probably is (or a pole or something)

lol haha. Recessive genes doing their work. I don't look german myself. I look middle-eastern.

[gactanync]

I've met both Turkish nordicists who think that Turkey is a nordic country surrounded by darkies and Turkish turanists who think that Turkey is a sort of little Mongolia.

[lidersontop]

Turks are somewhat swarthier than Georgians on average but they have people in the West who are both genetically and phenotypically substantially more Euro than Georgians.

Georgians can fit much easier here than any Turk. I have been in Turkey and when I crossed the border, it was like I have traveled thousands of kilometres in the south.

I've met both Turkish nordicists who think that Turkey is a nordic country surrounded by darkies and Turkish turanists who think that Turkey is a sort of little Mongolia.

No, Turkish Turanists think of Turkic people as Caucasoid lol.