Which European nation has the most non-European admixture?
 

Is it Iberians because of the Moorish Conquest of the Peninsula?
Is it Balkanians because of Ottoman domination for centuries?
Is it Finns, Hungarians, Russians?
Italians, Scandiavians?

That thing iberians having moorish admixture is a myth, if they have any berberid admixture such may be of recent times because of possible north african immigration but it doesnt come from the times of the Moorish domination.

Finish, hungarians and russians perhaps have some more non european admixture in general terms IMO.

Probably Iberians, Italians, Greeks, Slavs, Balts, Uralics, Scandinavians etc.

This thread so needs a poll.

Dodedac v3 K=12 :

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I think a poll would have made this thread a popularity contest of sorts, there are a lot of people out there with no idea what they are talking about which would have made the poll look ridiculous. I was considering making a poll but then I decided that it'd be better just to have a discussion and hear people's arguments on this matter. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/smile.gif

Southern Italy 38% non-euro? More than Greece?

You actually take those pseudo-scientific components seriously? lol

Anyway you should include West Asian too since according to 23andme I'm just as European as some Italians/Iberians if not more...

Why are they pseudo-scientific ? These components have been obtained with the ADMIXTURE software, which is the same that scientist use for their studies on ancestral components.

Probably Malta, Sardinia and Cyprus (if they are "European"). Finns and Northern Russians would be the ones with the largest amounts of "non-Caucasoid". But unlike what the trolls who call them "non-European" because of this, not all Caucasoid components are "European". Of course you would need to have more West or Southwest Asian admixture compared to Siberian in order to be equally "non-European", as Caucasoid Asian is closer to Europe than Mongoloid Asian is.

They are pseudo-scientific because in reality Armenians, Georgians, and other Caucasians physically look just as much European if not more than many Iberians/Italians/Greeks.

That's why on 23andme most West Asians score 100% European or somewhere near that.

The european at 23andMe is Caucasoid, not literally European. Heck even Indians get more than 90% european. As for looking european, I don't know what do you mean but to me Caucasus people look anatolian/middle-eastern.

You make a good point, being caucasoid doesnt make one european or not. But, mongoloids obviously come from outside of Europe. The Sami and some scandinavians /russians are very mongoloid looking at plain sight. They are a foreign population that have been in Europe for so long that most people consider them european in the broadest sense of the word, but it's that a correct statement?

So why do they cluster in the middle east, while Iberians cluster in the middle of Europe?

I'd reckon that being "considered European" generally means being from a country or ethnic group located in Europe.

Scandinavians do not have any significant Mongoloid influence. If they do, it's usually only 1 percent.

The Indian example on 23andme is a bad example for the average Indian. I'm sharing with many Indians and most have between 50-30% Asian on 23andme. They usually have between 50-70% European which seems about right anyway.

Caucasus people certainly look just as much as European as Iberians/Italians/Greeks if not even more.

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Well, they (phenotypically speaking) certainly arent as common as say nordics, but there a plenty enough scandinavians with mongoloid characteristics such as high cheekbones, semi-slanted beady eyes and such, probably due to intermixing with the even more mongoloid-looking Samis of the northern peninsula..

People without admixture can look like that too. Diana Rigg, English:

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV...0,214,314_.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Diana_Rigg.jpg

This will not end well.

Portugal is 2% SSA if I'm not mistaken.