Race and IQ - The IQ data is out
 

Ancient news for some, but is out and breaking the taboo.

Nothing 'hateful', just the facts.

Look at here, some Europeans (white people, your people) they seem to have the same average of IQ with non-whites Turks :

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Rl9b6-n2sK...ace-and-iq.png

Das ist eine dunkle Zeit fuer Europaer http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/grin.gif

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And some Mongoloid people have very high IQ !

I watched the video....what the scientist had to say is quite interesting....and she is right: Iq and race is a very taboo subject. I've thought about this often. Actually, yesterday I was watching a documentary, and in it, Einstine's brain was discussed. He donated his brain in the name of science after his passing. It was found that his brain looked just about the same as that of an average human. There were only a few more "wrinkles". This has lead some scientists (and I don't know which ones...that is just what was said) to believe we do not store information in our brains, but rather, in the energy field we carry around with us. All of the information that is currently known, and will every be known exists in the energy field (or as Einstein might say, the Ether). Einstein was very intelligent, because he was able to harness the information and bring it into his own field.

Sure, this might sound extremely hippy dippy, but it is an interesting concept to think about. If this is true, then...is intelligence really inherited? Or, perhaps Einstein's brain had the capacity to interpret and use the information, whereas someone of lesser intelligence would not be able to? '

well this picture is made in a very bad way.
because the colour doesn't correspond well to the differences in iqs.
105-90=15
90-59=31

so i guess this map is made by some amateur

I found these ones as well@:

http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity....orld%20Map.jpg

http://www.sublimeoblivion.com/wp-co...-world-map.png

http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/grin.gif

also comparing iqs of races/countries doesn't really make any sense.
having a bell curve with a different number in the middle doesn't mean that there aren't people from different races/countries that have a greater iq from the average of other countries.

meaning that there are black people around with iqs of 140 which are far more inteligent than the average european, as there are asian folks which are much more stupid than the average black person.

Oh, and one more thing I forgot to add...people that are very intelligent can also be more susceptible to mental disorders such as depression, anxiety, or ocd. So, in this case, is a person that has an iq of 130, but that cannot function due to anxiety better equipped to handle a job than a person with an iq of 85 that does not have any mental issues? So, in this light, I do not think IQ is necessarily a way to say one racial group is better than another...higher IQ does not always mean better.

I think most people know this already but no one wants to talk about it. This is not the first study done on this subject. I find it deplorable that people cannot research this stuff without being called racist or being threatened with losing their jobs. It is like the holocaust. I am not a holocaust denier but it pisses me off that people cannot research the evidence or want evidence of things being stated as historical fact without being called anti-Semitic. The truth behind science and history is more important than anyone's socio-political agenda. Without honesty and openness the shit is all worthless.

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Who was saying that one group was better than another? No one said that, you are projecting.

These IQ tests are useless. First of all the test groups they have tested in the East Asian groups were mainly over class and middle class urban citizens. And the test subjects in the african countries were poor lower class rural citizens. Not to mention that the tested groups in the african american community were from the worst ghetto areas. While the white and asians tested were from upper middle class areas.

Take adopted IQ samples instead. And it can be more realistic. Because this shit is useless crap.

Didn't you know easterners have a great hard drive, but their processors are not very good.

They can recite information really well, but when it comes to creativity, innovation they are at a loss.

A kindly reminder, Japan is in East Asia http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/evilgrin.gif And do you honestly think that Japanese people are not creative ???? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/wink.gif So they have invented nothing ???

Well I think Japanese have a different makeup from mainland china, they have probably inhereted the master Siberian genes from the Ainu http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/grin.gif (just kidding)

well you know Japanese seem to have had an isolated population from the rest of Asia due to being an island, they have a different mix of Siberian (which probably carry euro), Phillipino and Mainland Asia genes, which has given them a different makeup.


yes that is a new theory i will post about later, the master siberans http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/tongue.gif


Also Japanese have a high emphasis on art in their culture, more than any other country which could balance it back out.

If you watch NHK news they are constantly showing hand drawn graphics, so I think they may have even had a long term natural selection process, they have been making amazing art for centuries.



But still if you compare it to German luxury cars, it seems that Mercedes jumps way ahead in innovation and then Japan tries to catch up and deliver their own brand. However I love Toyota cars, they are certainly the best.


When the film Kung Fu Panda came out in China, it was the top grossing movie in Chinas history.

It was a movie about China made by americans and it had many Chinese asking why they can't be as creative as Americans.


Maybe it's environment, maybe not.

Why use maps when there are tables? Here is an exhaustive table of Lynn's data and his sources: http://www.isteve.com/IQ_Table.htm

The measurement for China, for example, is probably there to denounce racist accusations. Two sets of data are using only Shanghai and Beijing, which are vastly more developed than most of China. The average IQ for Chinese in general seems to be in the 94-96 range.

The map is especially nonsensical in that it projects IQ on "similar" nations. As if Mongolia is the average between China and Russia. The only measurement for the Balkans is Croatia (90), but the map assumes all Yugoslavian nations and Albania to boot are the same.

In general, it has the same problems as genetic measurements. Which often pretend that if extreme North Russians have e.g. 10% North Asian, then all Russians do, which couldn't be further from the truth. And then they conceal this peculiarity by pronouncing them simply "Russian". The national IQ data are pointless without properly explaining where they were taken and of which group.

It's good to illustrate very large disparities in average intelligence, such as e.g. between the Japanese and Jamaicans. It is also adequate in cases where the tests are distributed on perfectly equal terms, such as with American whites and blacks. But the presence of adjustments and old tests makes it generally not very accurate when comparing nations that score similarly.

I'd also add that some of the tests are dubious and that the tests suffer from inconsistency, we don't know f.ex that draw-a-man has a strong correlation with WAIS or cattel, and we don't know the test-correlation for either and as you already most of these are fairly old without any follow ups. It seems like lynn took way too many shortcuts and blunders when he compiled this list. Besides it seems that developed countries have more diverse samples than developing ones + the fact that the score increases with a larger sample. I think that the list is misleading. Atleast if lynn is going to make a statistical study on iq, he could atleast have the decency to maintain standard. If he is really serious about this. why doesn't he take donations from the vast population of white nationalists in the USA and give backbone to his racialism encouraging studies, by making decent shit.

actually the only area in Europe which has the same IQ as Turkey is the Balkans, where muslims live http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/smile.gif Its ok for Albianians, Bosnians and others of your kind to have the same IQ http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/wink.gif and besides; these areas are not only muslim; but also the poorest in Europe. Strange aint it ? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/wink.gif

Ask yourself how do you measure your IQ, and you'll know why the socially least privilegied countries have the individuals with an average IQ lower than Western Europe.

lol the pinoys have low IQ.. ameno will not accept this... lolol

Keep in mind the flynn effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_e...d_intelligence when discussing IQ test results by nation.

I really don't think IQ should be compared by countries. It should be compared by ethnic groups. x)

You can't be very smart if you put all your stick into a "IQ test" those things are so linear....intelligence is more abstract. Some might think having better "punctuation" or spelling has a higher IQ. And wasn't there a study on nutrition and IQ? I'm sure people in poorer countries have less nutrition then those is middle class america or europe. These things are a load of crap and IMO tend to hit a wall.....What if a person with a 88 IQ develops free energy technology? How would that make all the people with above 100 IQ feel? Get my drift.....i'm a bit vague with my description sorry i'm tired, but surely someone gets my drift....