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niemamczasu 07-15-2010 11:55 PM

are dravidians white or not
 
Like people like to say they are but then looking at them it's like they're not? I don't think they are but I have like a chart on it and it says they are mixed but that they are caucasoid. So what's this mean? What are they?


http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/...ofhumanity.htm


these people should be veddoid not dravids

http://www.lankalibrary.com/news/tamil_mother.jpg
http://www.joshuaproject.net/profiles/photos/p15234.jpg
so why do caucasians want so badly for these people to be caucasian when they aren't?

w3QHxwNb 07-16-2010 12:45 AM

Caucasoid does not equal "white",I think you confuse both terms in particular and also when you use them as a pair.
I guess most people when they say "White"/"white race" they mean it as in 'european caucasoid'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race

rxnixoncom 07-16-2010 12:55 AM

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Caucasoid does not equal "white",I think you confuse both terms in particular and also when you use them as a pair.
I guess most people when they say "White"/"white race" they mean it as in 'european caucasoid'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race
but even there it says we're mixed ut then goes ahead and puts da whole thing as caucasoid. I mean wtf?

bUqLfXRI 07-16-2010 01:02 AM

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but even there it says we're mixed ut then goes ahead and puts da whole thing as caucasoid. I mean wtf?
Wtf? indeed. Richard McCulloch puts what he calls 'mixed races' as "Caucasoid subspecies" and he calls them races on their own after that. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...expression.gif

TaliaJack 07-16-2010 01:06 AM

Why you are you so keen on being white anyway?

Sxedlawb 07-16-2010 01:09 AM

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Why you are you so keen on being white anyway?
I like the subject of race. But I'm not into being white. I'm jus into why? I got caught up in this and it gets confusing sometimes. Especially when people say indians are latinos or whatever.

sttrqiss 07-16-2010 01:28 AM

No they are not white, they are brown, you have to be really color-blind to say they are white because their skin color is brown

Dvjkefdw 07-16-2010 01:30 AM

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No they are not white, they are brown, you have to be really color-blind to say they are white because their skin color is brown
well I'm just saying I don't think they should be caucasoid either.

Gubocang 07-16-2010 01:33 AM

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well I'm just saying I don't think they should be caucasoid either.
Caucasoid is different, whereas white is just people with white skin, a Japonese can be white, an Nigerian Albino means white.

I think there are a lot of Caucasoid Dravidians, if they fit the caucasoid criteria then why not be caucasoid, if their cranial index, facial features etc etc... fit the caucasoid parameters then they are Caucasoid, as simple as that.

Bxbhtjnr 07-16-2010 01:35 AM

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Caucasoid is different, whereas white is just people with white skin, a Japonese can be white, an Nigerian Albino means white.

I think there are a lot of Caucasoid Dravidians, if they fit the caucasoid criteria then why not be caucasoid, if their cranial index, facial features etc etc... fit the caucasoid parameters then they are Caucasoid, as simple as that.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/d...isahab/tri.jpg

http://www.joshuaproject.net/profiles/photos/p15234.jpg
these people do not have the same hair skin tone or nose structure if you cared to look. You can't just ignore the fact that we have veddoid ancestry as well
even the hair's different
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/assets...7337735200.jpg

JTS_tv 07-16-2010 01:38 AM

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Adeniinteme 07-16-2010 01:43 AM

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#1

http://media.photobucket.com/image/d...isahab/tri.jpg

http://www.joshuaproject.net/profiles/photos/p15234.jpg
these people do not have the same hair skin tone or nose structure if you cared to look. You can't just ignore the fact that we have veddoid ancestry as well
even the hair's different
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/assets...7337735200.jpg
well if you read my post one more time you will see where I said I THINK, and IF THEY FIT THE CAUCASOID CRITERIA, which means that I never stated they are caucasoid, of course there must be a lot of Caucasoid Dravidians, the nose thing I already stated I said if they have the normal Caucasoid features ( which means, Nose, jaw, head-shape etc etc... ) then they will fit into the Caucasoid subrace.

p.s: skin tone doesn't mean jack shit, a big part of Europeans are not white either since European skin color varies from Pale white to Olive skin tone.

joulseenjoync 07-16-2010 01:47 AM

wrong link oops
http://media.photobucket.com/image/d...isahab/tri.jpg

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well if you read my post one more time you will see where I said I THINK, and IF THEY FIT THE CAUCASOID CRITERIA, which means that I never stated they are caucasoid, of course there must be a lot of Caucasoid Dravidians, the nose thing I already stated I said if they have the normal Caucasoid features ( which means, Nose, jaw, head-shape etc etc... ) then they will fit into the Caucasoid subrace.

p.s: skin tone doesn't mean jack shit, a big part of Europeans are not white either since European skin color varies from Pale white to Olive skin tone.
Well you're not supposed o just look at a person and say they are this or that. Most australids would be black or asian and native americans would be white. If we went purely on looks. I think everyon'e astraloid which imo is black cuz I wanna be.

blackjackiisre 07-16-2010 01:55 AM

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wrong link oops
http://media.photobucket.com/image/d...isahab/tri.jpg

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Well you're not supposed o just look at a person and say they are this or that. Most australids would be black or asian and native americans would be white. If we went purely on looks. I think everyon'e astraloid which imo is black cuz I wanna be.
Austroloids are a race to their own, they vary from Brawn to Black skin color.

But white and Black are not races so I don't see what is your point.

ticskebasse 07-16-2010 02:07 AM

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http://media.photobucket.com/image/d...isahab/tri.jpg

http://www.joshuaproject.net/profiles/photos/p15234.jpg
these people do not have the same hair skin tone or nose structure if you cared to look. You can't just ignore the fact that we have veddoid ancestry as well
even the hair's different
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/assets...7337735200.jpg
There are some Dravidians who have Veddoid ancestry, but there are also some Dravidians who have Caucasoid ancestry, tell me what's so Veddoid about these Dravidians?

http://nakorika.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/10.jpg
http://www.celebritiesprofile.info/i...ugu_157_16.jpg
http://www.come2india.org/images/telugu-wedding.jpg
http://www.bharatwaves.com/pictures/..._Dance_141.jpg
http://www.koodal.com/cinema/gallery...0723229123.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xFP6s39OUY...0/Aarthi_2.jpg
http://tamilo.com/Cinema/Tollywood/Bharath_actor.jpg

How do you not identify such looks as Caucasian?

zilsolley3 07-16-2010 02:08 AM

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Austroloids are a race to their own, they vary from Brawn to Black skin color.

But white and Black are not races so I don't see what is your point.
You're saying dravidian indians are caucasian just on looks. I'm sayin then shouldn't everyone be judged on race by looks then?And if that were done there'd only be 3 races. black white and asians.


my point is you can't assume someone's by looking at them.

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well the first pics looked a lot similar to my mother's family. They aren't dravids fully though. They are afghan and pakistani nationalitywise. The blogspot and guy above her both llooked non-caucasian

zilsolley3 07-16-2010 02:18 AM

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[/COLOR]well the first pics looked a lot similar to my mother's family. They aren't dravids fully though. They are afghan and pakistani nationalitywise. The blogspot and guy above her both llooked non-caucasian
No they are not Afghani or Pakistani, they are South Indian Dravidians, and the guy and the girl that you mentioned DO look Caucasians, just lighten their skin color and you would not be saying that.

sessoorale 07-16-2010 02:23 AM

There are as many races as there are people. We are each one race and therefore unique in our looks.

bestcigsnick 07-16-2010 02:24 AM

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No they are not Afghani or Pakistani, they are South Indian Dravidians, and the guy and the girl that you mentioned DO look Caucasians, just lighten their skin color and you would not be saying that.
the blogspot girl looks asian imo

temansertewek 07-16-2010 02:25 AM

Common sense based on history and language leads to think they're Caucasoids on a previous Australoid population. To what extent they mixed, I can't say. I guess there must be dark-skin Caucasoid-looking Dravidians as well as Australoid-looking Dravidian speakers too.


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