[brraverishhh]

Sri. Sravna Sir, Greetings.

In your message in post #9 you quoted my message in post #8, but unfortunately had not addressed all the points raised by me. I request you to look at the other points too, please. As you would have noticed before, I just express my mind in full. In other words, all those points raised make up my psyche. If we cut away any of the points, then I feel it's not quite right.

My discussion is not about others. In my opinion, any development is based on individual efforts. So is spiritual development. I think there is no right or wrong answer; either all the answers are right or all the answers are wrong. I am looking at the world from the point of view of " all the answers are right". My spiritual journey starts from there.

In my opinion, we can't disown or walk away from spirituality. Everyone including atheists are spiritual. Spirituality does not require religion or faith in God.It is a seperate science. Again, I call sprirituality as science. One may say eveything under science has to have physical evidence; but no. That is not the case. Some of the arts have scientific base but can never be quantified. Mostly all the sense gratifications fall under this category. For example, ( well, naturally,I choose my favourite subject) giving/receiing sexual pleasure is an art. it is based on science in both physically and psychologically; but that can't be quanitified. There, we have something scientifically accepted that has an evidence, but not measurable.

Similarly psychological advancement and elevation of the mind through suitable satsanga practices may be quite relevant for few idividuals. Such feelings can't be measured either; but can't be discounted. Personally I don't.

If we look vedanta work, ( I have not read much of them; but read very little; heard of some other works) they are not essentially based on religion or religious practices. Spriritual advancement has nothing to do with religion or God concept. Spritual advancement is an act of self development; psychological development of 'self'.

Sir, my style of discussion does not anchor on science and technology. But I have no belief in 'poorva janma karma'. I came here empty handed, I shall go back empty handed; only that concept makes sense to me. So, if you like a discussion unbiased, without seeking physical measurable evidences, which I think is fair enough, I request you not to bring 'poorva janma karma' and 'God concept' in the discussion either. We mmay keep the discussion purely on spirituality. I learned very little; know very little, but can discuss from that very little knowledge.

Cheers!