[opergolon]

okay, I dont wanna hear some weird bs siding with either kumdo or kendo. They are the same thing. Same kata(besides bonguncompup), same everything else. The only difference is that some kumdo people like wearing that white and black hakama for some reason. They also yell different things. etc etc

now. Which of the two have more competitive tournaments? And can(for example) 3rd degree black belts in kendo go to both the tournaments? Which of the two do world kendo championship people look at the most? Do wkc people in the us look at kumdo at all?

please, i don't wanna hear the "kumdo has better sparring" or "kendo is cleaner" bs. Its really the individual and what he does.

[markbila]

Um... First you say they are the same, and then you are asking which one is better for tournaments? What a ridiculous question

As you say, it depends on the individual people. So depends on what level of tournament and who the competitors are.

[MannoFr]

HighDongCumDo is the most competitive of all. End of story.

[Trientoriciom]

Yes, they can compete each others.. Who is more competitive ? Just watch WKC and you keep it to yourself.... Because there is no right answer..

okay, I dont wanna hear some weird bs siding with either kumdo or kendo. They are the same thing. Same kata(besides bonguncompup), same everything else. The only difference is that some kumdo people like wearing that white and black hakama for some reason. They also yell different things. etc etc

now. Which of the two have more competitive tournaments? And can(for example) 3rd degree black belts in kendo go to both the tournaments? Which of the two do world kendo championship people look at the most? Do wkc people in the us look at kumdo at all?

please, i don't wanna hear the "kumdo has better sparring" or "kendo is cleaner" bs. Its really the individual and what he does.

[Dpkefsuf]

okay, I dont wanna hear some weird bs siding with either kumdo or kendo. They are the same thing. Same kata(besides bonguncompup), same everything else. The only difference is that some kumdo people like wearing that white and black hakama for some reason. They also yell different things. etc etc

now. Which of the two have more competitive tournaments? And can(for example) 3rd degree black belts in kendo go to both the tournaments? Which of the two do world kendo championship people look at the most? Do wkc people in the us look at kumdo at all?

please, i don't wanna hear the "kumdo has better sparring" or "kendo is cleaner" bs. Its really the individual and what he does.

I don't know what makes you think you would here that kind of "bs" on this board. From my experience (as a reader of KWF), it has been quite the opposite; most people would agree with you that kumdo and kendo are the same.

I also do not understand what you mean by "world kendo championship people"? Participants? Spectators? Custodial staff?

Are you even clear in what you want to ask?

[pharweqto]

I think realy depends on the individual.

While some dojos do focus more on some things than others, most people want to do good kendo but also win.

Though, I have heard of certain dojos that dont do ANY sparring at all, but thats very rare. There are some dojos that do more sparring than others, and there are some dojos that have senseis who REALY want their students to win in the tournaments. But it realy has nothing to do with whether one does Kendo or Kumdo. It all depends. There is no answer.

You have to look for a dojo that suits your needs. If you want a dojo that will help you in shiai, you can find one. I know where to go when I need a good practice for Basics. And I know where I need to go when I want to spar with realy tough competive kenshi. But like I said, it doesn't have to do with whether its Kendo or kumdo.

[Gazeboss]

BanstaMonsta
Going by your first post, it looks like you are training at a good dojo with a goods sensei.
If you follow his instructions it will put you in good steed should you want to pressure competition glory in the future.

If you ignore what he says and chase short term gains, you will just end up frustrated.
A good Kumdo player is a good Kendo player.

This isn't a computer games where someone can give you a max-min build.

Go back to your dojo, train.
It takes time, it takes effort.

[padlabtard]

okay, I dont wanna hear some weird bs siding with either kumdo or kendo. They are the same thing. Same kata(besides bonguncompup), same everything else. The only difference is that some kumdo people like wearing that white and black hakama for some reason. They also yell different things. etc etc

now. Which of the two have more competitive tournaments? And can(for example) 3rd degree black belts in kendo go to both the tournaments? Which of the two do world kendo championship people look at the most? Do wkc people in the us look at kumdo at all?

please, i don't wanna hear the "kumdo has better sparring" or "kendo is cleaner" bs. Its really the individual and what he does.

No offense, but it seems pretty stupid to just automatically assume people here will spout off "bullshit". Furthermore, you're only difference is not a difference at all. If you wanna wear a white gi with black hakama in kendo, you are free to do so (one of my senpai does this actually). If you mean the complete white gi + white hakama with black stripe, that is just the official uniform the Korean team uses.

Now I am a beginner. Been doing kendo since march or so but from what I understand, kendo and kumdo are the same. Some rituals/terminology and stuff might be different but that's it. In fact, I assume the Korean team trains kumdo instead of kendo (them being Korean and all:P) and they always perform just fine on the WKC. So is one better then the other? No, they are essentially the same thing. Is one more competitive then other? Hell no, that depends on the player, not the sport.

[esanamaserrn]

now. Which of the two have more competitive tournaments? And can(for example) 3rd degree black belts in kendo go to both the tournaments? Which of the two do world kendo championship people look at the most? Do wkc people in the us look at kumdo at all?

As others have said, you immediately assert that both kendo and kumdo are the same (completely agree with you, minor variations in protocol such as sonkyo aside) so why even ask if one is more competitive than the other? Kumdo and kendo practitioners are as competitive as they chose to be. Personally, I would say that most practitioners, kendo and kumdo alike, aren't fanatical about competition. Yes they do want to win tournaments but it's not their only goal. Some people aren't as interested in tournaments and that's perfectly fine because how actively you participate in tournaments doesn't necessarily mean you're better than someone who isn't as active. But I digress.

Going back to your original questions, just look at the World Kendo Championships. What do you think the Korean team is doing? I get the distinct impression that you are somewhat fanatical or obsessed with trying to compete in the WKC. While I don't know how long you've been practicing or your skill level, I feel that this kind of goal should only be considered after you've attained a skill level comparable to those who compete at that level. If you've only been practicing a couple of years, you've got a long ways to go. If you're 4th dan and up, then by all means, give it a go, even 3rd dan if you've got the skill for it. I'm not trying to pass judgment on you, just offering my opinion as someone who enjoys competing but feels it takes a back seat to developing proper technique.