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Old 05-08-2006, 04:02 AM   #21
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Narayanan I missed them... I tried to give atleast two songs from a movie-If possible a peppy song and a melody thats why i missed them
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Old 05-08-2006, 04:09 AM   #22
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Yeah, just felt like giving that list a complete touch
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Old 05-08-2006, 04:17 AM   #23
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As narayanan Has Pointed out Deva has given excellent songs for the 'larger than life ' Superstardom Image Of Rajini. But till he reached this point Raaja in complete 80's and early 90's and probably MSV in early 80's were the Ones who were experimenting with all kinds of songs for him. You can see a Dappankuthu or a disco or a pure melody like 'MalaiyalaKaraiyoram' for Rajini's Intro's. But still Rajini Intro songs were not a necessity then.
Thalpathy should have marked the Arrival of Rajini Being Introduced thro a song But it was not a necessity still. 'Mannan' or 'Veera' didnt have the typical Intro Songs as we see in todays Rajini Movies. Even then IR was experimenting with a 'Ulakathukaaga' in paandian-a typical MGR Intro Song alike. 'Ejamaan' had a 'EjamaanKaaladi' which was way too different for a rajini movie and 'Uzhaipaali' had 'Uzhaipaali Illatha'.
Analysing the songs IR gave for rajini We can naturally come to a conclusion that IR was not stopping anywhere with kuthu songs for Rajini and he was experimenting always.
But Deva knew what was right for Rajini. He just grabbed the oppurtunity and On the lines of 'Pothuvaaga Enmanasu' composed 'Vanthenda Paalakaaran' 'NaanAutokaaran' 'AthandaIthandaa' And established that a rajini intro songs should have SPB and Folk Rhythms.
ARR was a bit behind and started experimenting late but his songs were good too but it was not the right time. Muthu and Padaiyappa were great but 'Dippudippu' with the voice of SM and punjabi rhythms was never welcomed by RajiniFans here in TN period.
And i can only laugh at the sweeping statement like 'IR never experimented and Only ARR experimented'.
Rajini's songs were sung by MalaysiaVasudevan[Pothuvvaaga, Aasainooruvagai], SPB[Rakkamma,RajavukkuRajaanaanthaan], Yesudaas[AagayamMelae], Mano[EnnodaRaasi,EnkittaMothathae] and even Arunmozhi[AathulaAnnakili] at times.
Vishayam theiriyaatha ARR Fans are like Poonai's who keep their eyes shut
hello mr rajajalz....it was some people who condemned ARR for not using SPB for Dippu Kumari and that is y they never supported it...from ur own words it shows people was just against Dippu Kumari just coz it was BY ARRAHMAN and not coz its not sung by SPB..so in what ground can they condemn ARR coz he used SM for dippu when IR himself had used other singers too b4....also u telling coz dippu had punjabi rhythms thats y it was not welcome...how do u explain Devuda now???? ofcource i ws aware IR had used other singers for Rajini's MAIN song b4 but i purposely bring up this matter by tellilng ARR created a trend by using a 'new' singer for Rajini's intro song....coz i knew it would just make u guys burn & u will come up with this...ithe....ithethan naan ethurparthen....

so now tell me...y DIPPU kumari isnt welcomed in TN??
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Old 05-08-2006, 06:38 AM   #24
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There are two songs one is folkish and other one is fusion. They are

1) Pothuvaga En Manasu Thangam
2) Rakkamma Kaiya Thattu

None can match Thalapathy's Rakkamma Kaiya Thattu's standard
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Old 05-08-2006, 02:18 PM   #25
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Even then IR was experimenting with a 'Ulakathukaaga' in paandian-a typical MGR Intro Song alike. 'Ejamaan' had a 'EjamaanKaaladi' which was way too different for a rajini movie and 'Uzhaipaali' had 'Uzhaipaali Illatha'.
Analysing the songs IR gave for rajini We can naturally come to a conclusion that IR was not stopping anywhere with kuthu songs for Rajini and he was experimenting always
wat experiment did ur guy do here???summa kadhula poo suthathinga.......yenya IR yenna pannalum adhu experimenta....'ulakathukaaga' - experimenta?? ........adhu enaa xperimento, song bit the dust miserably........and wat was so different in 'uzhaipaali Illatha' song???come on RS, i'm

on a serious note no xperiment can match ARR's usage of udit narayan for muthu song......it was a huge risk, if backfired it wud have been curtains for ARR....so there is no doubt that ARR innovates more than others for Rajini.......tell u wat he is himself singing for rajini in shivaji.......
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Old 05-08-2006, 02:57 PM   #26
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MSV - Did a lot of popular movies like Billa, Thee, Pollathavan etc etc in the late 70s and early 80s ...

IR - Main reason behind the success of Rajini and Kamal in the 80s ... He's done soooooo many movies with Rajini, and almost all of them were Superhits ...

Deva - Elevated Rajini to Superstar level with his BGM in Annamalai and Baasha !!

ARR - Reminds me of the saying, "Oru Paana Sothukku Oru Sor Padham" .... Even though he's only composed for 3 movies so far with Sivaji being the 4th, I still feel his is the best suited for Rajini ... He made a normal masala movie like MUTHU look like a classy one just cos of his BGM ... And the intro song Oruvan Oruvan is easily the best for Rajini so far ... The BGMs in PADYAPPA where Rajini gets that snake, and the scene where Ramya Krishnan and Rajini meet after 18 years will have the whole scene (for abt 5 mins) with only BGM and no dialogues ..... And even the flop movie BABA has the record for the highest music seller .... So obviously I came back to GURUNAATHAR + THALAIVAR = BLOCKBUSTER formula !!

HJ - Since I also like Harris, I want Harris to work with Rajini atleast once ... Atleast for this, Rajini should act in the ARM movie next !! :P
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Old 05-08-2006, 04:12 PM   #27
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There are two songs one is folkish and other one is fusion. They are

1) Pothuvaga En Manasu Thangam
2) Rakkamma Kaiya Thattu

None can match Thalapathy's Rakkamma Kaiya Thattu's standard
its coz Mani Ratnam was there.... if it wasnt for Mani Ratnam....IR would have composed another tabla/tavil base song...
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Old 05-08-2006, 04:30 PM   #28
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its coz Mani Ratnam was there FYI, Murattukalai was SP.Muthuraman. Rajini did only one movie in the Mani-IR combo. If the combo did'nt work good, there would'nt have been an association for 17 years (Kavikkuyil -> Veera). Infact the first Rahman-Rajini movie was in 1995.

IR would have composed another tabla/tavil base song So what ? as long as the song is good, why would I be bothered about it ? If the song sucks, would a new instrument invented specifically for the movie make any difference to me ?
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Old 05-08-2006, 05:42 PM   #29
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The topic is

WHich MD is best suited for Rajini's Movies !!

ARR worked in 3 movies only.In this list, 2 of them are only suited. Baba is not accepted ny the public.

In the case of MSV,
He also worked in some movies.L don't know the details,

In the case of IR,
He worked a lot of moveis. What is it means?

IR is accepted for Rajini's movies by the public.
At the time, each and every film was expected by the public for IR and Rajini combo !!! This is true !!!

As a reference of the topic, IR is mostly suited for RAjini's movies.

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Usha Sankar.
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Old 05-08-2006, 09:03 PM   #30
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If Maddy doesn't have anything sensible to counter argue,he resorts to his fav pasttime of dragging IR Fans. Give us a break. Will you?and Dinesh, will u pls stop addressing me as "maapu" or thoppu.
Hub etiquette demands it. BTW, Iam not a "he".
Now, coming to the topic,
IR is the only MD who has addressed different dimensions of Rajini as an actor -
[ be it an amma/thangachi sentiment or lost lover or a loverboy lost in love or pining for an unrequited love . his delectable "thimirthanam" [Oh how I miss this Rajini !!!] - you name a mood, Raja would have covered it.
This is a fact that cannot be refuted. ARR or Deva or VS simply wERE not existing during Rajini's golden acting period .
How many varieties can we expect in an uni dimensional super star's films other than "thudipaadalgaL" or boring upadesa paadalGal?
ARR fans can just chill.
It is as simple as how IR can no where figure
if somebody were to discuss a SJSurya's or
Shahrukhkhan's songs or even the great Shivaji's songs
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Old 05-09-2006, 12:15 AM   #31
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ohhh..thumburu ur a gal va.... sorry ye... yes thumburu.... if Rajini's golden days were with IR....so wut about the Rajini NOW???? its selfish to tell IR was the 1 with Rajini during his best days...coz even untill now Rajini is doing good...infact better than in 1980s...and its ARR & Deva is the 1 composing music for nowdays Rajini.... and ofcource u know wut response were for Batsha,Annamalai,Muthu & Padaiyappa movies & audio.... infact Deva was the 1 created the trend for a Terrific Theme Music for Rajini.... and ARR improvise that Theme music in many ways.... Baba & Chandramuki might be the weak albums of Rajini albums in since Batsha ....coz both the albums were diff in script ....
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Old 05-09-2006, 12:47 AM   #32
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Thumburu and others....

When RK was at his peak, only IR was ruling and obviously the credit went to him but it in noway undermines ARR's abilities as a composer...
Given 3 chances, I think he did extremely well for all the 3 and all were super hits.....

ARR by no means inferior .....

but today , when we see RK movies, most of them were IR and naturally our assessment of best composer goes to IR only

Now someone will open a similar thread for Kamal also !
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Old 05-09-2006, 12:53 AM   #33
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Thumburu and others....

When RK was at his peak, only IR was ruling and obviously the credit went to him but it in noway undermines ARR's abilities as a composer...
Given 3 chances, I think he did extremely well for all the 3 and all were super hits.....

ARR by no means inferior .....

but today , when we see RK movies, most of them were IR and naturally our assessment of best composer goes to IR only

Now someone will open a similar thread for Kamal also !
superbly answered !!!
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Old 05-09-2006, 01:12 AM   #34
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guys guys.......please stop it...thumburu, wat is the need to argue with ppl. who have closed their minds on ARR??

idhu thevaya ramakrishna???? IR v/s ARR fight never ending pola irukku....

Balaji, really priviliged to see ur post praising ARR......i guess MSV fans are not that bad either
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Old 05-09-2006, 01:15 AM   #35
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guys guys.......please stop it...thumburu, wat is the need to argue with ppl. who have closed their minds on ARR??

idhu thevaya ramakrishna???? IR v/s ARR fight never ending pola irukku....
Well i am trying to unite IR fans with ARR fans
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Old 05-09-2006, 01:21 AM   #36
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Well i am trying to unite IR fans with ARR fans
ippadiye pesi pesi odamba rana galam aakkitangale........ ........kai pilla escapu....
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Old 05-31-2006, 07:00 AM   #37
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IR would've done it, but he was'nt experimented under this very same condition.
Exactly... If done we would've known how much more IR Could've blown up Rajini's Image
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Old 06-26-2006, 07:00 AM   #38
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its coz Mani Ratnam was there
FYI, Murattukalai was SP.Muthuraman. Rajini did only one movie in the Mani-IR combo. If the combo did'nt work good, there would'nt have been an association for 17 years (Kavikkuyil -> Veera). Infact the first Rahman-Rajini movie was in 1995.

IR would have composed another tabla/tavil base song So what ? as long as the song is good, why would I be bothered about it ? If the song sucks, would a new instrument invented specifically for the movie make any difference to me ? FYKI, he was talking about STANDARD...not TASTE...that is why i brought MANI RATNAM in.... there is a big difference between Poduvaga song & Rakamma song...both SOUNDS VERY GOOD...but the STYLE & STANDARD r diff!!!!
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:00 AM   #39
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IMHO,

As far as the INTRO & BGM for Rajini is concerned, still Deva is the best (atleast for the recent trend).

who can forget his BGM -- Baatshaa.... Baatsha...

& his INTRO SONGS

1. vandenda paalukkaaran
2. naan auto kaaran auto kaaran
3. Baatsha song
etc

ARR - Apart from Oruvan Oruvan Muthalali , nothing else.. (IMHO)

IR -- wow.. No one can beat this man if RK needs an INTRO (with village folk etc).. esp "poDuvaaGa eN Manasu thaNgam" which can still raise the blood circulation ..
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Old 08-09-2006, 07:00 AM   #40
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Well...Illayaraja can give the best BGM for Rajini's movies and his songs for Rajini's movies are usually class...but if you want to have a rajini intro song then ARR would be best....the rest are quite suitable for his movies.
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