[Slonopotam845]

BTW, 'Thaatha ilayaRaja voda' music pathi ethukku pa pesanum. I think the topic is on why Rahman didn't refer to IR. It is his preference. He has every right to say that - I believe.

[9mm_fan]

thamizh, you forgot to mention that IR himself worked under GK Venketesh, while GKV worked under MSV!!!! Its all a big circle.

[Beerinkol]

There is nothing wrong with ARR preferring MSV over IR, its his wish and if he learned more things from MSV, so what?

Lemme ask u this......Were u in Amnesia during the 1990s??? Bet u enjoyed ARR's songs back then and now ur prefering some young dudes or suporting IR.....

Something like that u can say.... his preference...

if u dun like it.....

hey, actually no 1 bothers if u do like ARR or not.... so, off u go doing ur duties buddy.... there is allot better things to do than criticizing ARR yea... i hope there is.... lol...

[doctorzlo]

Hi all TFM fans
please read the link below


http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/f...0900380100.htm

and I was laughing with the info from ARR!
"I like listening to Kishore Amonkar, Hasu Patel and others. And the melodies of the 1960s fascinate me. At the same time the youngster in me digs rock and jazz," he laughs. M.S.Viswanathan is an all time favourite of Rahman. "A real master," he commends.

Is he an alien lived in TN till 70's after that disappeared(to hell or anywhere) and returned in 1994 for roja.
Or
was he born in 1994 with amnesia, could know only 70's and straight away started his career with roja in 1994?
Or
Is he an amnesia patient who completely forgot what was going in 80's and 90's and his keyboard palyer job with IR.

Wov!!He is a strange alien.

Why he didn't go to MSV in 1994 for roja to know more about music from him or why he didn't try to to extract great music from him in his albums rather than copiying from IR,YSR,HOLLYWOOD ARTIST(Whom he don't even know).
Still I don't understand why he didn't help to his guru when he was working as an assistant to MAESTRO IR (as he don't know till now)
Why he didn't object his guru MSV for working with IR.
But instead he followed his guru MSV footstep, worked as a keyboard player with IR to get a life.

Or he could have been worked with Kishore Amonkar, Hasu Patel and others whom he feels as great!!!!

Please do not come up with ARR's hit albums and his achievements of awards and global recognition etc...
I am aware of thaat. I won't refuse that.
But I am confused with his statement in that interview.If he is really shame full he shouldn't have worked with IR in his career.

I need a clarification from ARR or his fans please!!

Thanks
xml

[MannoFr]

MSV is also my all-time favourite music director, and I grew up with Ilayaraja's music. So what?

Why do you insist that everyone MUST like IR?

If you don't know this yet, there are indeed many people who do not like IR brand of music. Too bad for you, I say.

But you have to live with it.

[Fegasderty]

rather than copiying from IR,YSR,HOLLYWOOD ARTIST(Whom he don't even know).

Now, I get it! You are really upset that ARR NEVER got inspired by IR.

[Ifroham4]

Hi all TFM fans
please read the link below

http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/f...0900380100.htm

and I was laughing with the info from ARR!

And I'm with ur info...

[Drugmachine]

[MannoFr]

Originally Posted by xml rather than copiying from IR,YSR,HOLLYWOOD ARTIST(Whom he don't even know).

Now, I get it! You are really upset that ARR NEVER got inspired by IR. I am suprised that this thread is not yet locked.. perhaps some food for humour

xml, please continue with your observations

[Paul Bunyan]

Hi all
thanks for the reply.
I am not against ARR's albums.I agree that ARR was making hits from roja till now.
But I am confused with statement.If MSV is his all time favourite why he didn't learn music from him by working with him.
What did he do in 70's to 90's when he was alive.
Where from he got the knowledge to compose these many albums.

He could have been proved his talent without going to IR. Am I Right

Though MSV was alive he went to some unknown MD like IR(according to him)and worked as a keyboard player.
His current career is just because of his presence with IR team where maniratnam was found him.
Or he could have been proved it without working with IR when MSV, Kishore were alive till now.

I agree with his talent, achievement but disagree with his statement.

[S.T.D.]

His current career is just because of his presence with IR team where maniratnam was found him.

continue the entertainment.

I doubt you know anything much about IR, leave alone ARR

[Lillie_Steins]

Sincere'a kelvi ketkradhala sincere'a badhil solla try panren.

If MSV is his all time favourite why he didn't learn music from him by working with him.

Its not necessary that all MDs should learn music by working with another MD. They work in different orchestra and get experienced with various orchestration techniques.. thats it. MD's are mostly ekalayvan's who grow up and get inspired by listening to other great ppl more often than staying with them and learning.
What did he do in 70's to 90's when he was alive. Obvious. ARR was schooling and during the later half he was in some bands and arranging music for commercials.
Where from he got the knowledge to compose these many albums. Indha ragasiyam therinja ellarum ARR aayida mataangala :P

He could have been proved his talent without going to IR. Am I Right Thats the case actually. Only after he became popular, people started quipping that he once used to work under IR.

Though MSV was alive he went to some unknown MD like IR(according to him)and worked as a keyboard player.
His current career is just because of his presence with IR team where maniratnam was found him. Absolutely wrong! MR came to know about ARR through his relative and he was eager to meet him after watching Leo Coffee ad. By that time, ARR was kinda buzz name within the industry as the whiz kid with some neat gizmos.
To clear your hallucinations, ARR worked under IR for a very short duration. I guess even during that period he played rarely since IR had his own keyboard player. And he worked under him out of poverty and I read somewhere that IR just hired him becoz his dad was a reputed musician.
Nothing like guru shishyan image that you are having, ARR rarely interacted with IR I beleive.

[9mm_fan]

an extract from bharadwaj rangan's interview:

Greater things were in store. “When I was playing with Ilayaraja, I met this amazing keyboard player, Viji Manuel.” Manuel composed jingles, and he asked Rahman to assist him and programme for him. Then a filmmaker from Kerala, Isaac Thomas, gave Rahman a jingle to compose. “That was the first one, I think, for a colour lab.” It takes a little imagining, that the go-to guy for the soundtrack of every single prestige production today was once toiling away at background scores that could be zapped away with an unceremonious flick of the remote control – but as they say, the journey of a thousand miles often begins with a single 30-second ad.

That ad was for Allwyn Trendy watches. Rajiv Menon, who made the commercial, recalls that he first heard of Rahman – then known as Dilip, before his conversion to Islam – during an earlier assignment for Harvest rice bran oil. “We wanted to show a plate splitting, and we wanted a particular kind of sound – a breaking and splitting apart sound.” Someone told him about this whiz kid with sound effects technology. The rest was the beginning of history. The plate broke and split apart as no plate had broken and split apart in advertising.

Less destructive – but no less influential in furthering the early-Rahman legend – was the commercial for Leo Coffee, made by Sharada and Trilok of Trish Productions. They started out in 1987 and were asked to do a public service film for drug abuse in their very first year of operation.

“Someone suggested a young, new musician called Dilip,” says Sharada. “We fixed up the recording, and in came this tiny guy accompanied by loads of equipment, who talked nonstop and knew more tech specs on sound than the recordist.” Rahman delivered a track that was outstanding and the film won them many awards. “After that, we worked together on over a hundred ads.”

“Mani Ratnam is my cousin and would often ask me who did a particular track for an ad. Trilok and I would keep telling him to check out Dilip sometime.” Once, after a recording, they were heading out to see the first copy of [Mani Ratnam’s] Thalapathi, and Dilip asked if he could come too. He met Mani that evening. Mani called Sharada the next day to ask if he could listen to Dilip’s work, and Trilok took him across to the studio. “Mani called Dilip a day later,” – Rahman remembers it as “two weeks later” – “and offered him Roja.” There it is. The story behind the creation of a new musical universe – in one small paragraph. http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajra...one-interview/

[Ifroham4]

thamizh, you forgot to mention that IR himself worked under GK Venketesh, while GKV worked under MSV!!!! Its all a big circle.

Yup, and that IR himself is an avid admirer of MSV

[Peptobismol]

ARR even worked with Zakir Hussain...and he didn't mention his name too....


so what's the issue?

[Beerinkol]

Originally Posted by xml His current career is just because of his presence with IR team where maniratnam was found him.

continue the entertainment.

I doubt you know anything much about IR, leave alone ARR Do you know? While in an unresolved squabble, dear :rajaroll: was referring this "xml" as rajamemoirs.galaxy truly missing for a specific link. (FH "Search" doesnt help) . And everytime "xml" enters its nothing but a crap of tiff.

Lock Please!

[TorryJens]

I think it is true that annachchi follows MSV style of composing, always more on melody and less orchestration. And he should be his fan definitely. But for people who listens to IR's music, it is difficult to settle with that kind of orchestration, IR's music is complicated. So XML, I don't think anything funny in his interview.

[PhillipHer]

ARR dont follow ThabelaPetti's style... ya v know its complicating judge...

[Lillie_Steins]

xml,
There is no need for a music director like IlayaRaja to get the certificate from Rahman. Do you still need a certificate from a guy whom in your POV is - a copy cat of MSV / IR / U1 ? What kind of difference will it make if Rahman says 'IR is his favorite music director' ? As many said, it is their preference and taste.

For e.g., I don't find anything great in MSV's music. That won't make MSV - a lesser mortal. Right ?

[NeroASERCH]

For e.g., I don't find anything great in MSV's music. That won't make MSV - a lesser mortal. Right ?

lesser talent is the word

I am at your confession selva for I get very when you like something.