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timmybrown

10-13-2005 07:00 AM

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My wife sister wanted to buy a new Yaris? Toyota sedan awhile back and was Short some cash, she is a school teacher so I knew she had a steady job, she only needed 20k for the down payment and my wife to hock out house by co-signing for her, I told her I would loan her the 20K and she said that it would be awhile before she could pay it back, OK no problem, just pay it back as you can.
So anyway she got her car, and then a few months later there is a party at their house, about 300 meters across our pond to their house, the noise was so bad even at that distance that it felt like it was going to break my windows and went on til 0030.
The next day I asked for some of my money back, she don't got any, so I asked why not, you could afford a party with music, food and booze for 200 people that lasted damn near all night, you could afford that, why can't you afford to pay the people that were kind enough to loan you money last year??

My sympathy. One of the greatest mysteries in Thailand which I can never figure myself. The car down payment is only 20k? Then her monthly instalment is probably 15k - 20k? Her salary is probably only around 20k a month? And with the high price in petrol nowadays how is she going to maintain the car? I hope she doesn't teach math in school. http://www.thailandqa.com/forum/imag.../laughlong.gif

ireleda

10-15-2005 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by Napo
The solution my friend
gave me is to complain to the landlord, but that most
Thais like to party outside the house, meaning, at a
bar, club etc. Not entirely, They just like noise, and at home as well as at a bar, they have the partys right in their yard and block off the public street with a band stand and tables for drinks and eats as well as dancing.

My wife sister wanted to buy a new Yaris? Toyota sedan awhile back and was Short some cash, she is a school teacher so I knew she had a steady job, she only needed 20k for the down payment and my wife to hock out house by co-signing for her, I told her I would loan her the 20K and she said that it would be awhile before she could pay it back, OK no problem, just pay it back as you can.
So anyway she got her car, and then a few months later there is a party at their house, about 300 meters across our pond to their house, the noise was so bad even at that distance that it felt like it was going to break my windows and went on til 0030.
The next day I asked for some of my money back, she don't got any, so I asked why not, you could afford a party with music, food and booze for 200 people that lasted damn near all night, you could afford that, why can't you afford to pay the people that were kind enough to loan you money last year??

So guess what, now the whole damn family is mad at me, and that includes my wife,,

Tradition and custom in Thailand is party first and if there is any money left over, then pay your bills...

This country does so remind me of the time I lived in Mexico, the ways of the people are similar and it is getting just about as dangerous to live here as it is in Mexico, rapes, robbery's, and killings are almost on a par with Mexico and will be much worse soon as the govt of Mexico is doing something about it while the govt of Thailand has deteriorated to an extent where no one in authority seems to give a damn and the police are an organized crime family here.

QxmFwtlam

10-20-2005 07:00 AM

http://www.thailandqa.com/photos/ima...1_IMG_6579.jpg
Here is a picture of a sound truck. Very very very loud.

ireleda

10-29-2005 07:00 AM

NO, Bucky, the down was more than the 20k she got from me, she had the down that they wanted, but her credit didn't come up to snuff, subprime or something, so she needed 20k more than she had and then my wife had to co sign for her too. and Petrol should not be much as she only drives maybe 5 km each way a day.

But she might teach math too, I know she teaches English, but she can not speak any at all, and understands none,, so how does she teach it??????

But my wife teaches it too, and she always talks to her class in Thai.. and then they wonder why they graduate illiterates from schools here.

twiffatticy

11-06-2005 07:00 AM

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I have been in Bkk. with my wife now since last Friday we are living in a town house in sparser part of the city, I have never seen police car/truck ever drive through these sois, so if there is any problem whom can a farang call?...especialy if he/she does not speak any Thai. And the problem is that one of the neighbors is playing music way too loud..up til 11 p.m....and even up till 1 a.m. at times-as my wife tells me. So what are the laws & regulations about excessive noise in Bangkok?...are there any noise curfews as in U,S, cities?...And how do you get police to enforce the laws especialy if you are a farang, since they barely enforce the law when a Bkk. native calls them to complain?(as Nooch tells me)

Welcome to Thailandhttp://www.thailandqa.com/forum/imag.../laughlong.gif

timmybrown

11-07-2005 07:00 AM

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Songkhla - Three men and three women were killed and two other were injured when an angry neighbour opened fire at them while they were drinking and singing late Saturday night, police said.

Wow! The singing must be really bad!

r5YOPDyk

12-01-2005 07:00 AM

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Not entirely, They just like noise, and at home as well as at a bar, they have the partys right in their yard and block off the public street with a band stand and tables for drinks and eats as well as dancing.

My wife sister wanted to buy a new Yaris? Toyota sedan awhile back and was Short some cash, she is a school teacher so I knew she had a steady job, she only needed 20k for the down payment and my wife to hock out house by co-signing for her, I told her I would loan her the 20K and she said that it would be awhile before she could pay it back, OK no problem, just pay it back as you can.
So anyway she got her car, and then a few months later there is a party at their house, about 300 meters across our pond to their house, the noise was so bad even at that distance that it felt like it was going to break my windows and went on til 0030.
The next day I asked for some of my money back, she don't got any, so I asked why not, you could afford a party with music, food and booze for 200 people that lasted damn near all night, you could afford that, why can't you afford to pay the people that were kind enough to loan you money last year??

So guess what, now the whole damn family is mad at me, and that includes my wife,,

Tradition and custom in Thailand is party first and if there is any money left over, then pay your bills...

This country does so remind me of the time I lived in Mexico, the ways of the people are similar and it is getting just about as dangerous to live here as it is in Mexico, rapes, robbery's, and killings are almost on a par with Mexico and will be much worse soon as the govt of Mexico is doing something about it while the govt of Thailand has deteriorated to an extent where no one in authority seems to give a damn and the police are an organized crime family here.

Being raised in Mexico for half my life, I came to the same conclusion
that Mexicans and Thais have a surprising similarity. Reading your
experience, Mexicans, or most of Mexicans are the same, they may
not have money for other things but for parties they do whatever it
takes to get money for party, beer, etc. Police won't move a finger
in that kind of situations either, among other similarities but that would
make this out of topic.

Now dont get me wrong, I love parties, and i'm sure that for the first
few days i may night mind them with loud music as I'd love to know
what they celebrate etc... but if it's an on going thing every weekend
or during a weekday then i will be unhappy. Perhaps i will end up living in
an island in the south http://www.thailandqa.com/forum/imag...es/biggrin.png 555

atmowasia

12-02-2005 07:00 AM

[COLOR="Blue"]Mr.Sved I agree with you,most people can adopt to just about any kind of abnormal surroundings-we humans are most adaptable creatures that God ever created-even loud noise(music), but it still is harmful to us, psychologicaly and physicaly, for all sounds above 100 decibellshttp://www.thailandqa.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.png are phisically painful to us, and prolonged exposure to very loud music/sounds does damage our hearingshttp://www.thailandqa.com/forum/imag...es/shocked.gif,...so if my neighbors don't care about their hearing & mental health and their behaviour starts affecting my health, then I guess I have to start objecting,.....though I would never do it with a gunhttp://www.thailandqa.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.png but legaly with help of policehttp://www.thailandqa.com/forum/imag...lies/smile.png

timmybrown

12-11-2005 07:00 AM

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The solution my friend
gave me is to complain to the landlord, but that most
Thais like to party outside the house, meaning, at a
bar, club etc.

What happens if the noisy ones are actually the landlord and his/her family and friends? http://www.thailandqa.com/forum/imag...es/biggrin.png

ireleda

12-14-2005 07:00 AM

I have noticed some changes since I started to come here, and you are correct, it ain't what it used to be, but only the peoples attitudes have changed, they are not the outgoing folks they once were, to much money coming from to many people and everyone here wants to get some from everyone that comes here.
it happens every where this tourism starts, you see I am old enough to have moved around the world before it was all tourists that traveled and most folks strayed home and worked and went to the mountains or sea coast for 2 weeks a year, never got a thousand miles from home.
Then the travel boom set in and people was coming from all over, "OH Ain't she a cute little girl,,Buy a fish from her and I take a pic of ya" "Yea I got the pic, now give her some money,No Not A nickle, give her a buck, she looks like she needs it" so next time the little girl sold a fish she got a buck &1/2 from the farang tourist, and it has went from there, if the guy had of been smart, she would have sold the fish for a nickle and he paid a nickle and then things would have still been cool.
Thailand wanted protection from communism coming from Laos and Cambodia, so they invited the US military in to build bases and bomb the commies on the other side of the western borders, so they did and a bunch of guys came over here and ended up liking it and the people, and they also helped to change the attitude of the people, mainly from from being to young and to free with their money, people got used to it and to this day want more of it and also want the farangs out of here so to make room for more tourists that do not live all year on the money in their pockets but come here with a suitcase full and dump it and leave.
But to get back on topic, I am on some other forums that are here, and there is great interest in the shooter at that noisy party, he is in great demand if his services ever come to be available to the general public, lots of work for him from what I see.

actrisski

01-09-2006 07:00 AM

Nice one! Keep up the good work!These people have no respect for anyone.My nieghbors keep me awake every week end.But not with their HI FI! Their mouths! They yap yap all night long so loud right outside my bedroom.Why dont they have respect for other people?These people are a disgrace!

SeftyJokipl

01-10-2006 07:00 AM

Yes, I kind of agree it is also got to do with the fact that you want to show the world - 'there is something going on'. (typical predicament of an event organiser?)That kind of supercedes everything else. Pretty much how we do it here in my country!

twiffatticy

02-19-2006 07:00 AM

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You are just screwed, There is nothing you can do except fall back on the great Thai feeling of Consideration,, which by the way is non existent here, it runs with Logic thinking of which is also non existent to them.
They have those all nite noisy party's here, just finished another 2 days ago for my Fil who died almost 2 years ago, big sound truck with a $10 sound system and speakers the size of a van with a normal watt capacity or 20 watts and running them at 100 watts, people setting in the street at tables so the road was plugged off and they had to U turn and go back 5 KM and around the other way, but their permit was for 2230 shut down of noise, but a 100 baht backhand to the issuing cop and it ran til 2340, I asked my wife, the speakers and band stand they also set up blocking the street was right where my driveway enters the street, why with people 100 feet from the speakers, do they have to have the auto generated base set on full volume at all times so it is thumping along with the same staccato drum beat and no music tapes in and have everything turned up so high that people 3 KM away are kept awake by the volume, why not turn it down to a listening range of 100 feet.?
They can't answer those questions, so you get a "Well it is our tradition to play it loud" and how the hell it become a tradition when they have not had the ability to have those electronics for a long enough time to become a Tradition.
I had never lived in a moo ban village before, she wanted to get married and move to her home where she lived and taught school, I lived in a gated community compound in the North of CM on a quiet cul d sac out by San Sai,, nice new house, way to big for me anyway, but cheap and peaceful, so I listened to her, believed her how peaceful this village is and I have never lived in such a noisy hell hole in my life, even LA, Pittsburg, Oakland, Portland Seattle, none compare with this place,, Not even Saigon can hold a candle to this place, Even tho I have invested a bit of dosh in Thailand, if the Baht goes much higher, the bad will have way surpassed the advantages of living here and I will go back and maybe return to Mexico as as noisy and dangerous as it is, it is preferable to here, and the last 2 prez in that country have straightened it out a lot or so I heard from my lifelong friend that now lives close to Cabo San Lucas and has offered me his new "Sancho House" he just finished,,[kind of a guest cabin or Mil house]..

We went to an upcountry funeral a while back, the loudspeakers were set up only a few metres from the guest tables, the noise level was unbelievable! you had to shout into the ear of person sitting next to you to make yourself understood, the tables shook and the water in the glasses rippled!! Unbelievable!! It was loud enough to wake the dead, hey! perhaps that's why they do ithttp://www.thailandqa.com/forum/imag...lies/smile.png. After 45 minutes I had a pounding headache and had to retire defeated. The whole thing was absurd.

SeftyJokipl

02-26-2006 07:00 AM

I think when you are not too rich and you live off community celeberations, people generally are full of adrenalin when the time comes and the noise of the speakers just does not match up to their excitement. And is kind of welcome base to the excitement. Think of kids, they can revel in madness around them. Of course, this is a problem when you have more and more people who do not connect with this celeberation.

Do you think my theory could be right?

Gcromqgb

03-01-2006 07:00 AM

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Thats the way it works, ,Equal justice for all, and the more you pay, the more the more Justice you get..

If you have loads of money, whatever you say will be law. The poor seldom find justice. It is a cruel fact of life in Thailand.

ireleda

03-08-2006 03:01 PM

That is because of graft and corruption, a Cop does not work for his salary, he does nothing for it and is expected to do nothing for it.
All the 6k or what ever a month he gets, usually starts at 6k a month and can go to 100k a month for ranking officers, but that just puts them on call, if you need anything done then it will have to be a paid on account negotiated deal.

Such as I heard about Toxins life once,, "son of a poor rice farmer" kind of like Abe Lincoln fence splitting rails at a log cabin,, after you reach the police force you also become Rich landed gentry..

adultcheee

03-08-2006 03:03 PM

Then there's "institutionalized" Thai noise polution.

Right now, I'm sitting at the computer, listening to morlam being piped over government loudspeakers placed around the hood!

I close my eyes and visualize being locked up in some POW camp.

ireleda

03-08-2006 07:30 PM

Thats for Damn sure, we got em bolted to poles all over our Moo Ban, and it is the same everywhere, I was just up in Phetchabun and it is the same all over town, 2 speakers on a pole and pobly 5000 poles in town and music and news or something from a WAT, we have different sounds from different poles in our village cause we are small but got 2 WATS.

Then they each have a tall steel Trussed tower in each WAT and one at some head mens houses with a cluster of large horn speakers of high wattage and they also pipe those into their own sound systems to really knock the fillings out of your teeth.
Well so much for Buddhism being the quiet belief,, not at least since the electronic age, but they usually do not light those big ones off unless they are needing donations for something,, good way to make money,,hold everyone hostage with noise pollution til the box gets full.

markshome23

03-08-2006 11:30 PM

happy to live in a quiet peaceful city centre then.

D6b2v1HA

03-09-2006 01:29 AM

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Such as I heard about Toxins life once,, "son of a poor rice farmer"

Thats a good one! Here is the web address of the "rice farm" :rolleyes:

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