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Old 05-31-2006, 02:45 AM   #1
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hi,

what have you done so far with your iaito in response to this 5 month knife amnesty?
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Old 05-31-2006, 03:04 AM   #2
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Uhh...is this a British thing or something? Or an Iaido thing? 'Cause I've got no clue what this is about.
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:02 AM   #3
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Looking at a couple of sites - including a police one, I don't think it applies.

It's all about being found with a blade without any reason to have it.

So taking your iaito to and from training sessions would be ok - especially if you could produce some sort of membership documentation etc.

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Old 05-31-2006, 10:46 AM   #4
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I've cleaned it. Then repaired all the club iaito that needed some attention. And checked all the 'hand in bins' to see if any iaito/shinken are in them. Tim to the rescue!!!!

Have you checked the bin today?
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Old 05-31-2006, 10:56 AM   #5
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Talking of the amnesty, i think its a waste of time. I mean over the bank holiday weekend there was 50 accounted stabbings in the UK
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:04 AM   #6
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Would an iaito really count for this, since the blade usually isn't sharpened.
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:15 AM   #7
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I think it would, its still a "blade" as such, the police here are getting strict.
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:17 AM   #8
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Persay, why is this hapening? I mean, I'm sure that there are laws about having knives here in the state, but I don't think they're as strict as they are across the pond.
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:19 AM   #9
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Well, its got out of control here for what reason i dunno.

I guess its just like the US has terrible gun laws, "the right to bear arms" and all that.

I'd rather have the knives though, people having the right to own handguns etc freaks me out. Its not allowed here, unless its hunting rifles etc.
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:39 AM   #10
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I guess its just like the US has terrible gun laws, "the right to bear arms" and all that.
We also let people who don't have a thought in their head, and would not recognize one if they stubbed their toe on it, not only have opinions, but share them in public.
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:40 AM   #11
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We also let people who don't have a thought in their head, and would not recognize one if they stubbed their toe on it, not only have opinions, but share them in public.
I expected you'd show up in no time to get you're bit in.

Well all i can say is it may be my opinion, but it's the truth.
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:42 AM   #12
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Well all i can say is it may be my opinion, but it's the truth.
You can't handle the truth.
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:43 AM   #13
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You can't handle the truth.
What truth??

Everyone is entitled to an opinion Ignatz.
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:51 AM   #14
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What truth??

Everyone is entitled to an opinion Ignatz.
Absolutely, and if it is somehow based upon some kind of knowledge of the subject so much the better. Unfortunately your opinions generally are not so based. So if you wish to spout off opinions about the laws of the U.S. you should take some time to familiarize yourself with them. There is another long, long thread about this and you have demonstrated a complete lack of knowledge of the subject. You might as well be offering opinions on Scottish dentistry, which as we all know, does not exist.
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:55 AM   #15
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Absolutely, and if it is somehow based upon some kind of knowledge of the subject so much the better. Unfortunately your opinions generally are not so based. So if you wish to spout off opinions about the laws of the U.S. you should take some time to familiarize yourself with them. There is another long, long thread about this and you have demonstrated a complete lack of knowledge of the subject. You might as well be offering opinions on Scottish dentistry, which as we all know, does not exist.
Like i said, i have a close one and friends over in the US. They even complain about how the law is so called "lousy" as they call it.

It's coming first hand from American citizens, not just me.

Europe doesn't have the right to bear arms.....i wonder why.
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:58 AM   #16
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Well, its got out of control here for what reason i dunno.
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I'd rather have the knives though, people having the right to own handguns etc freaks me out. Its not allowed here, unless its hunting rifles etc.
It's out of control for the same reason you are bothered by handguns--people are freaked out by other people having dangerous killing weapons. It is public perception and fear.

The problem is never the tool, it's the person wielding it. That's the truth of the matter. Laws or not, some people will commit violent acts regardless. We Americans do argue about the gun laws, so there is no truth other than there are vary strongly held opinions on both sides. (I'd be long winded, but Ignatz looks like he has time to beat you down slowly, point by point... )

I voiced it before, my complain with the whole mess is where do you stop? Kitchen knives-some want to make those non-pointy by law too. How about household cleaners--they can be used to create explosives and lethal gases? Petrol, electricity, natural gas, and liquor can all be used nefariously... Where does it stop?
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Old 05-31-2006, 12:03 PM   #17
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It's out of control for the same reason you are bothered by handguns--people are freaked out by other people having dangerous killing weapons. It is public perception and fear.

The problem is never the tool, it's the person wielding it. That's the truth of the matter. Laws or not, some people will commit violent acts regardless. We Americans do argue about the gun laws, so there is no truth other than there are vary strongly held opinions on both sides. (I'd be long winded, but Ignatz looks like he has time to beat you down slowly, point by point... )

I voiced it before, my complain with the whole mess is where do you stop? Kitchen knives-some want to make those non-pointy by law too. How about household cleaners--they can be used to create explosives and lethal gases? Petrol, electricity, natural gas, and liquor can all be used nefariously... Where does it stop?
Yeah, you are right there, but there should not be a place for handguns in this day and age. Fair enough we have our knives, which is a big problem in the UK. I admit that and i can take criticism

The point i am trying to make is that we've lived alright without guns here in Europe, so why can't America? What is this big thing: is it a "tough guy, superiority" thing?

You'd think with all the killings over there, school kids etc they would crack down on it.

For example with the Dunblane massacre back in 1996 happened, handguns were completely banned. From then there has been no crime, well nothing like over there

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_Massacre

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1997/1997005.htm
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Old 05-31-2006, 12:27 PM   #18
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The main problem area in the UK for knife attacks is GLASGOW. So its all your fault as the Scots representative on the forum....Commander! (I wonder if she's a secret stabber type? Beware the tsuki to the groin, boys... )
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Old 05-31-2006, 12:28 PM   #19
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You'd think with all the killings over there, school kids etc they would crack down on it.
How many killings with handguns were there in the U.S. per population last year compared to the U.K.
(Here is a hint, NYC is one of the safest cities in the country, didn't even make it into the top 100 for murder rates. In fact, take out Detroit and the top 100 were all in southern states like South Carolina)
For example with the Dunblane massacre back in 1996 happened, handguns were completely banned. From then there has been no crime, well nothing like over there
That statement is so, so wrong. Violent crime in the U.K. continues to rise in spite of your stupid government's foolhardy attempts to disarm law abiding citizens, hoping for a population of cows and sheep with really bad teeth.
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Old 05-31-2006, 12:30 PM   #20
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I'm starting to worry about your obsession with teeth.... and you are right about the gun crime. It appears to have got worse since they banned them, but I need FACTS. Will some lawyer type have a look please?
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