Team orders ban dropped from next season...
 

Overdue Imo, it was an unrealistic and unenforcable rule.

Indeed

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Why do the FIA feel the need to add this: The FIA said, however, that there would still be a rule to allow it to punish teams if it considers they had brought the sport into disrepute with their actions. Team orders are now allowed. The article forbidding team orders (39.1) has been deleted from the rule book.

If a team use team orders now, how can that be seen as bringing the sport into disrepute http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...s/confused.gif http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag.../roll_eyes.gif

That's just a catch-all allowing them to penalize teams other than Ferrari, if needed. http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

The rule WAS enforceable, the FIA just chose not to really enforce it http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...ies/tongue.gif

To avoid scenes like Austria i'd imagine where one car is obviously much faster and far ahead and lets the team mate through. Though how they draw the line on that is, as ever with the FIA, as clear as mud.

Because the FIA seem to have a problem with disambigous rules? http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag.../roll_eyes.gif http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

I think its about time they scrapped the rule. be interesting to see if much changes.

Well , holey cow , they did it !

Thank you for revoking this silly rule , Mr. Todt . Thank you .

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Well, Todt isn't just invisible as FIA president, he's downright in-existent.

Hate him or not Max had enough spine to dish out penalties to those who broke the rules, Todt will rather remove the rules than enforce them. http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/smilies/ermm.gif

I guess this is because the cheaters lost even though they used team orders, now they can use them each and every race, let's see if RedBull can still beat them by playing fairly. http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/smilies/s.gif

Good end to a stupid rule IMHO. This year proved that either/neither choice has the potential to yield unintended results.

To avoid the crap that Flavio and Nelsinho pulled.

Slight correction, the rule was enforcable ONLY on a team being stupid enough to make it obvious, 99% of the time teams are far more subtle and without any proof (laywers tend to like little stuff like that) the FIA are powerless to act.

Good call rom the FIA... I wonder how Horner will play it next season now.

The FIA also said on Friday that all team radio communications will be made available to broadcasters from the 2012 season. Great for us, bad for the teams! And for PR as well, every petulant remark by every driver will be available to the media. Should make for some interesting debates on here.

I can imagine incidents like Alonso's outburst at Petrov being converted into ringtones globally http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...es/biggrin.gif

I thought team orders were already permitted last season, one just had to pay a $100k fee to use them blantantly and nothing if they did them with a proper secret code......

Next year sounds like it will be really boring, with fewer and fewer controversies


opps no humor allowed in f1 forum....my apologies

Bravo

True, so at least when it WAS obvious they SHOULD have taken more severe measures instead of just selling points.

I have a feeling if Webber is asked to move over for Seb we'll have a very messy war of words and Webber will end up walking out with his head held high. Mark isn't a push over and I think Horner knows that better than us.

I've never been a fan of team orders and I doubt the teams who have manged to execute them so subtly over the last few years will do anything different.

Team orders only work (as in undetected) when the two drivers co-operate,

If in the future a driver should choose point blank to disobey his team he risks being sacked from the team, but how many other teams would hire that driver knowing he will not take orders. It could be a career ending stand.

In the case of Webber that is less a problem given he is coming to the end of his F1 career but younger drivers need to consider carefully their actions in such a situation.

Just like he did this season, and I hope they win again.