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Old 06-30-2010, 06:59 PM   #1
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The Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) is planning a raft of environmentally friendly regulation changes in the coming seasons to slash emissions and increase fuel efficiency.

The body has received the results of an environmental research analysis of Formula 1, and is confident that it can cut carbon emissions by more than 12 per cent in the next three years. It has also targeted engine and gearbox regulations from 2013 to include new fuel efficient technologies. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84898

Apparently just 0.29% of the total emissions comes from burning fuel in the cars, with the majority from building the cars, developing parts, and of course aviation. So logically staying in Europe for more races, rather than jetting off to soulless new Tilkedromes would please everyone, right?
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Old 06-30-2010, 07:03 PM   #2
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84898

Apparently just 0.29% of the total emissions comes from burning fuel in the cars, with the majority from building the cars, developing parts, and of course aviation. So logically staying in Europe for more races, rather than jetting off to soulless new Tilkedromes would please everyone, right?
Bingo! Give that man a cigar
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:01 AM   #3
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84898

Apparently just 0.29% of the total emissions comes from burning fuel in the cars, with the majority from building the cars, developing parts, and of course aviation. So logically staying in Europe for more races, rather than jetting off to soulless new Tilkedromes would please everyone, right?
Odd that Whitmarsh starts off by saying that running the cars only accounts for 0.3% of the emissions, and then spends most of the rest of the statement talking about engine developments.

Since most of the teams are based in the central part of England, it would make perfect environmental sense to replace all the far eastern grands prix with rounds at Cadwell, Oulton Park, Rockingham and Snetterton
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Old 07-01-2010, 04:41 AM   #4
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majority from building the cars, developing parts,
The buildings which form the various teams HQs and factories, have lighting and heating bills which run all year. Maybe we could force all teams to work in sheds, with their only source of heating coming from cups of tea provided by disgruntled wives.
Better yet, let's have every car built in people's kitchens...

... no wait, that means that technically I'd be in F1.
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Old 07-01-2010, 08:38 AM   #5
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gee if you want to be silly about it
how about all cars built in one workshop each team have their own area
to work on the cars but 60% of the cars have to be control parts
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Old 07-01-2010, 11:20 AM   #6
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So logically staying in Europe for more races, rather than jetting off to soulless new Tilkedromes would please everyone, right?
Then it wouldn't be the F1 WORLD Championship.
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Old 07-01-2010, 11:30 AM   #7
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Then it wouldn't be the F1 WORLD Championship.
"World Championship" is supposed to refer to the origins of the athletes, not the location of the events.
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Old 07-01-2010, 05:11 PM   #8
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"World Championship" is supposed to refer to the origins of the athletes, not the location of the events.
Not true, as per FIA regulations a Championship can only "World Championship" status if it travels to 3 or 4 continents (cant remember the exact number)
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Old 07-01-2010, 05:51 PM   #9
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let's have every car built in people's kitchens...

... no wait, that means that technically I'd be in F1.
In that case I think you can consider yourself very lucky if your wife is merely disgruntled
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Old 07-01-2010, 06:06 PM   #10
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If teams want to cut down their CO2 emissions then they should move to France. Then they can run their wind tunnels using electricity generated by nuclear power stations.
That's why the LHC is where it is!
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Old 07-01-2010, 08:58 PM   #11
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F1 wants manufacturers and industry involvement.
Manufacturers and industry want 'green'
So F1 wants green.
Simple.

Another possible side benefit is any new tech the teams develop they can potentially licence out to the wider industry which could provide a very nice additional revenue stream.

If this leads to more variaty in engines, fuel, drive train etc that'll be interesting whilst also being challenge to regulate to maintain competitiveness.

Energy consuption for factories, windtunnels etc is a different issue. Like any large scale energy consumer at the moment I'm sure the teams are looking at ways to be more efficient and greener simply because they know full well the cost of energy is only going to rise.
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Old 07-01-2010, 09:49 PM   #12
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F1 wants manufacturers and industry involvement.
Manufacturers and industry want 'green'
So F1 wants green.
Simple.
But very few manufacturers want F1.

The likes of Honda, Toyota and BMW have gone. Renault have sold a chunk of their team to keep a presence at minimal cost. Only Mercedes and Ferrari remain with no-one in a rush to join them.

F1 "going green" is more about PR than attracting manufacturers back IMHO. The sport's image is of rich boys with rich toys going very fast. That's not very politically correct in today's world, so by "going green" F1 can portray an image of being responsible and caring of the environment.
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Old 07-01-2010, 10:14 PM   #13
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Hemp .
Make the car out of it .
Lubricate with it .
Burn it in the tank .

Henry Ford did it . Why can't F1 ?
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Old 07-02-2010, 02:45 AM   #14
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Hemp .
Make the car out of it .
Lubricate with it .
Burn it in the tank .

Henry Ford did it . Why can't F1 ?
Henry Ford was a highly intelligent person and none of the muppets running F1 right now comes close to holding a candle to Ford's shadow.
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Old 07-02-2010, 08:30 AM   #15
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Henry Ford was a highly intelligent person and none of the muppets running F1 right now comes close to holding a candle to Ford's shadow.
Too attached to the oil teat , Ioan .
Even Henry couldn't make it fly .

They could do it easily , if they really wanted to .

Doubly sad is that they would save money and it would translate well into the marketplace .

Imagine compostable cars .
Actually , imagine digestable cars , they could break down with anaerobic bacteria producing the methane to drive the trucks from track to track .

That is green .

And that is easy .
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Old 07-02-2010, 03:00 PM   #16
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Henry Ford was a highly intelligent person and none of the muppets running F1 right now comes close to holding a candle to Ford's shadow.
Now wait...if you held a candle to his shadow, wouldn't the shadow disappear?
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