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**womberte** · 11-17-2009, 02:26 PM

Stories flying all over the place this morning that Jenson has agreed a £6m a year 3-year deal with McLaren :O

There is an article in the Guardian this morning. Wonder if Kimi will go to Merc GP now? They said they didn't want an all-German line-up...

http://planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5699508,00.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009...laren-contract

**thomaskkk** · 11-17-2009, 03:07 PM

Bunsen's offer : 'The Guardian understands that the World Champion has turned his back on Brawn following protracted negotiations and will almost double his salary with the Woking-based team. '

Now!! if McLaren are offering 6 million quid a year to Bunsen, and this is double what Brawn were offering, then one can only assume that Brawn were offering peanuts to this year's Champion. What the hell!!!
And Lewis Hamilton is getting 12 million quid a year!!

I am flabbergasted!!

**orison** · 11-17-2009, 03:10 PM

Something seems fishy...

**floadaVonfoli** · 11-17-2009, 03:13 PM

So 3 million quid a year is peanuts is it ? I wouldn't mind being a pound or 2 behind that !

**thomaskkk** · 11-17-2009, 03:13 PM

Something seems fishy...

Yeah!! I get the same feeling. The signing is supposed to be in three day's time.

**ROYMANgo** · 11-17-2009, 03:17 PM

I read an article last week which interviewed Ross Brawn and he claimed the talks with Button stalled at the £7m mark?? So either one story is untrue, or maybe Mercedes really just wanted Button out of there and a lesser paid contract at Mclaren is his only option. Not a bad option, but it'll be a demotion in terms of lead status IMO..

**replicamuse** · 11-17-2009, 03:33 PM

Not a bad option, but it'll be a demotion in terms of lead status IMO..

He'll still have the number 1 on his car

**ROYMANgo** · 11-17-2009, 03:36 PM

He'll still have the number 1 on his car

Well thats alright then, I'm sure this will keep him happy

**CamVideoQl** · 11-17-2009, 03:48 PM

If Brawn wasn't willing to pay Button £6m a year after a world title and Mercedes backing.. maybe they didn't want him at all? Are Mercedes interfering with Brawn's selection of drivers or what?

**replicamuse** · 11-17-2009, 03:51 PM

If Brawn wasn't willing to pay Button £6m a year after a world title and Mercedes backing.. maybe they didn't want him at all? Are Mercedes interfering with Brawn's selection of drivers or what?

No they aren't. As there is no such thing as Brawn any more. They are Mercedes, and they can do as they please.

**Aswdwdfg** · 11-17-2009, 03:52 PM

He'll still have the number 1 on his car

And perhaps we can arrange for Lewy to wear a cap that says "2" on it all season a la Rubens in his Red days - i'd pay good money 4 that.

**CamVideoQl** · 11-17-2009, 03:55 PM

No they aren't. As there is no such thing as Brawn any more. They are Mercedes, and they can do as they please.

True, but I meant Ross Brawn as opposed to the team. As team principal and with a 25% stake in the team he must still get some say in who drives?

**ROYMANgo** · 11-17-2009, 03:57 PM

And perhaps we can arrange for Lewy to wear a cap that says "2" on it all season a la Rubens in his Red days - i'd pay good money 4 that.

Me too

It would be quite ironic with the on track performance being totally the opposite.

**kazinopartnerkae** · 11-17-2009, 04:17 PM

Money aside, Button probably should have retired from F1. I don't think Brawn was entirely happy with either driver last year and probably thought the championship fights went on longer than they should have. Button may be the champion but it would seem that few feel inclined to pay him what he desires. Hamilton is on his way to becoming an exceptional driver and against him, Button will appear average at best.

**replicamuse** · 11-17-2009, 04:18 PM

Button struggled against Barichello, now nothing against Rubens but I think his best days are behind him. So I'd be surprised to see what he can do against Hamilton.

I hope McLaren don't treat him in the same way as they did Kovalinen!

**ROYMANgo** · 11-17-2009, 04:23 PM

I agree that he will struggle to match Hamiltons pace, but retiring would be abit drastic IMO. Button is alot better than some of the field and has a wealth of experience, and when you compare him to the likes of Trulli, well. I don't think Mclaren will treat Button the same as Heikki as Button seems a stronger personality and not someone who just rolls over. Heikki is a great guy but he lacks that killer instinct IMO..

**LomodiorCon** · 11-17-2009, 04:25 PM

Ross Brawn isn't stupid...if the majority owner doesn't care much for Button he won't fight that hard to keep him. They have Rosberg, who while a talent has yet to have a decent car, and they could get Heidfeld for a fraction of the cost of Button.

How badly did McLaren treat Heikki exactly? Fact is he was beaten, by quite some way, by a better driver and showed that he's merely average.

**replicamuse** · 11-17-2009, 04:27 PM

How badly did McLaren treat Heikki exactly? Fact is he was beaten, by quite some way, by a better driver and showed that he's merely average.

He did get beaten, in that there is no doubt. But McLaren who were struggling saw this and decided to put their efforts into getting wins for Hamilton, which they suceeded in doing, but it was somewhat at Kovalinen's cost.

**ROYMANgo** · 11-17-2009, 04:32 PM

He did get beaten, in that there is no doubt. But McLaren who were struggling saw this and decided to put their efforts into getting wins for Hamilton, which they suceeded in doing, but it was somewhat at Kovalinen's cost.

Indeed which proves my point that he lacks that killer instinct. Drivers in the past have come into teams and forced their dominance to get the lead role, and Heikki didn't achieve that IMO..

**replicamuse** · 11-17-2009, 04:35 PM

Indeed which proves my point that he lacks that killer instinct. Drivers in the past have come into teams and forced their dominance to get the lead role, and Heikki didn't achieve that IMO..

You can have all the killer instinct you want, but if you aren't fast enough, you aren't fast enough.

11-17-2009, 02:26 PM	#1
womberte Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 408 Senior Member	Button signs 3-year McLaren contract. CONFIRMED Stories flying all over the place this morning that Jenson has agreed a £6m a year 3-year deal with McLaren :O There is an article in the Guardian this morning. Wonder if Kimi will go to Merc GP now? They said they didn't want an all-German line-up... http://planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5699508,00.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009...laren-contract Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 03:07 PM	#2
thomaskkk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 518 Senior Member	Bunsen's offer : *'The Guardian understands that the World Champion has turned his back on Brawn following protracted negotiations and will almost double his salary with the Woking-based team. '* Now!! if McLaren are offering 6 million quid a year to Bunsen, and this is double what Brawn were offering, then one can only assume that Brawn were offering peanuts to this year's Champion. What the hell!!! And Lewis Hamilton is getting 12 million quid a year!! I am flabbergasted!! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 03:10 PM	#3
orison Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 455 Senior Member	Something seems fishy... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 03:13 PM	#4
floadaVonfoli Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 417 Senior Member	So 3 million quid a year is peanuts is it ? I wouldn't mind being a pound or 2 behind that ! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 03:13 PM	#5
thomaskkk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 518 Senior Member	Something seems fishy... Yeah!! I get the same feeling. The signing is supposed to be in three day's time. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 03:17 PM	#6
ROYMANgo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 523 Senior Member	I read an article last week which interviewed Ross Brawn and he claimed the talks with Button stalled at the £7m mark?? So either one story is untrue, or maybe Mercedes really just wanted Button out of there and a lesser paid contract at Mclaren is his only option. Not a bad option, but it'll be a demotion in terms of lead status IMO.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 03:33 PM	#7
replicamuse Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 476 Senior Member	Not a bad option, but it'll be a demotion in terms of lead status IMO.. He'll still have the number 1 on his car Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 03:36 PM	#8
ROYMANgo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 523 Senior Member	He'll still have the number 1 on his car Well thats alright then, I'm sure this will keep him happy Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 03:48 PM	#9
CamVideoQl Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 459 Senior Member	If Brawn wasn't willing to pay Button £6m a year after a world title and Mercedes backing.. maybe they didn't want him at all? Are Mercedes interfering with Brawn's selection of drivers or what? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 03:51 PM	#10
replicamuse Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 476 Senior Member	If Brawn wasn't willing to pay Button £6m a year after a world title and Mercedes backing.. maybe they didn't want him at all? Are Mercedes interfering with Brawn's selection of drivers or what? No they aren't. As there is no such thing as Brawn any more. They are Mercedes, and they can do as they please. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Aswdwdfg Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 520 Senior Member	He'll still have the number 1 on his car And perhaps we can arrange for Lewy to wear a cap that says "2" on it all season a la Rubens in his Red days - i'd pay good money 4 that. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 03:55 PM	#12
CamVideoQl Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 459 Senior Member	No they aren't. As there is no such thing as Brawn any more. They are Mercedes, and they can do as they please. True, but I meant Ross Brawn as opposed to the team. As team principal and with a 25% stake in the team he must still get some say in who drives? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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ROYMANgo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 523 Senior Member	And perhaps we can arrange for Lewy to wear a cap that says "2" on it all season a la Rubens in his Red days - i'd pay good money 4 that. Me too It would be quite ironic with the on track performance being totally the opposite. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 04:17 PM	#14
kazinopartnerkae Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 453 Senior Member	Money aside, Button probably should have retired from F1. I don't think Brawn was entirely happy with either driver last year and probably thought the championship fights went on longer than they should have. Button may be the champion but it would seem that few feel inclined to pay him what he desires. Hamilton is on his way to becoming an exceptional driver and against him, Button will appear average at best. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 04:18 PM	#15
replicamuse Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 476 Senior Member	Button struggled against Barichello, now nothing against Rubens but I think his best days are behind him. So I'd be surprised to see what he can do against Hamilton. I hope McLaren don't treat him in the same way as they did Kovalinen! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 04:23 PM	#16
ROYMANgo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 523 Senior Member	I agree that he will struggle to match Hamiltons pace, but retiring would be abit drastic IMO. Button is alot better than some of the field and has a wealth of experience, and when you compare him to the likes of Trulli, well. I don't think Mclaren will treat Button the same as Heikki as Button seems a stronger personality and not someone who just rolls over. Heikki is a great guy but he lacks that killer instinct IMO.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 04:25 PM	#17
LomodiorCon Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	Ross Brawn isn't stupid...if the majority owner doesn't care much for Button he won't fight that hard to keep him. They have Rosberg, who while a talent has yet to have a decent car, and they could get Heidfeld for a fraction of the cost of Button. How badly did McLaren treat Heikki exactly? Fact is he was beaten, by quite some way, by a better driver and showed that he's merely average. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 04:27 PM	#18
replicamuse Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 476 Senior Member	How badly did McLaren treat Heikki exactly? Fact is he was beaten, by quite some way, by a better driver and showed that he's merely average. He did get beaten, in that there is no doubt. But McLaren who were struggling saw this and decided to put their efforts into getting wins for Hamilton, which they suceeded in doing, but it was somewhat at Kovalinen's cost. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 04:32 PM	#19
ROYMANgo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 523 Senior Member	He did get beaten, in that there is no doubt. But McLaren who were struggling saw this and decided to put their efforts into getting wins for Hamilton, which they suceeded in doing, but it was somewhat at Kovalinen's cost. Indeed which proves my point that he lacks that killer instinct. Drivers in the past have come into teams and forced their dominance to get the lead role, and Heikki didn't achieve that IMO.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-17-2009, 04:35 PM	#20
replicamuse Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 476 Senior Member	Indeed which proves my point that he lacks that killer instinct. Drivers in the past have come into teams and forced their dominance to get the lead role, and Heikki didn't achieve that IMO.. You can have all the killer instinct you want, but if you aren't fast enough, you aren't fast enough. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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