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Old 06-22-2010, 02:07 PM   #1
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This is my favorite album artwork. I love the art for this. My favorite picture is the burning piano, and her in front of it. One of these days I'm going to find this on vinyl. I hope it exists.



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Old 06-22-2010, 02:47 PM   #2
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I have the one with Toodles Mr. Jim tacked on the end (how in the hell did they fit that one on?)
Cool, is that the Japanese version? I'd love to get a copy of that.

This is my favorite album artwork. I love the art for this. My favorite picture is the burning piano, and her in front of it. One of these days I'm going to find this on vinyl. I hope it exists.
I forgot to mention before how great the artwork is! I got the little orange BFP photo book and I love looking at the pictures.

There are quite a few copies of the record on ebay, but most of the ones listed on the US site seem pretty expensive (5 over $95! I believe it is pretty rare now. The original pressings were made on clear vinyl, but I don't know if they did any reprints on regular vinyl. However, there's a copy on ebay.co.uk for Ј6 at the minute...
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Old 06-22-2010, 05:48 PM   #3
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Looking on iTunes right now at the album and it has TWO Prof Widows, Tornado Talula, AND NO VOODOO. There isn't a space issue on iTunes like there is on a cd. It's BLASPHEMY. You can't buy studio Voodoo on iTunes at all. What. The. Fuck. And of course, no glitter talula. Hell, if she studio records the "Summer's calling" intro to Talula, are her people then going to erase Tornado?
It's ridiculous that Voodoo just isn't included, it's an important part of the album and was even a single (remixes, but still) and performed on Unplugged and Conan back in the day.I wonder if Tori even knows about the full Pele not being available online. I've always been surprised Tori didn't have something in her contract preventing the label from releasing a changed version of Pele, since I assume that's who's doing this kind of thing. Alternately, if she's signing off on this kind of thing, I can understand changing Talula to the single mix and including the Pro Widow remix to try to sell some more albums, but cutting Voodoo makes no sense, and it's not like she's embarrassed by the song since she played it frequently in 2007.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:25 PM   #4
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last time I checked Mr. Zebra is the live version from venus
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Old 06-23-2010, 12:01 AM   #5
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last time I checked Mr. Zebra is the live version from venus
Holy fuck! You're right. Now, I LOVE that version of Zebra. But... wtf? It's criminal!!!

Ok, on amazon's mp3 downloads, Zebra is original (I supposed it could be Tales too)

It has the BOTH prof widows, no voodoo, Tornado talula. It says "LP version" next to all titles but Zebra and the PW remix, and that's NOT true, as Tornado is the single mix. Like it's bad enough they bastardize it, but at least label it correctly!
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Old 06-23-2010, 03:15 AM   #6
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Best album by anyone ever. I still discover layers and lyrics fourteen years later.

I know this is about PELE, but to preface a bit, when I first heard LITTLE EARTHQUAKES it was the first time I realized another person existed on the planet who might be a soulmate of sorts (I grew up in a cult so didn't get much exposure). PINK was more of that. But with PELE...

...PELE is my love forever. PELE took me down to the darkest parts of Wonderland...the parts that almost no one had ever seen before. I was taken down a twisted, rich path that celebrated ITSELF and didn't pander or change itself for our world, for the pop world, for the buying public. PELE is PELE and she has teeth.

There is no other song in existence like Caught a Lite Sneeze. My BF always comments that it (and many other songs on PELE) is timeless and could be released at any time and keep it's energy. The whole album is dynamic and alive.

To prevent myself from going on and on...PELE was a coming of age album for me. If the Little E-quakes album taught me that I'd been silent all those years, PELE taught me to revere my weirdness, to realize that the best things aren't always understood easily, and to roar and revel in myself. PELE taught me how deep music can be on every level.
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:45 AM   #7
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Pele had just come out when I was 15 or 16, I was in a long distance relationship when the internet was still fairly text-based with my husband then boyfriend when that kind of thing was considered weird. We would make mix tapes for each other and he made me one with yes anastasia and space dog, I was in love.

I remember looking at a fanpage for UTP and exchanging emails with a woman who told me Pele was amazing, so the next time I went to the record store I knew I had to get it. I remember my southern baptist mother being incredibly suspicious of what I'd just obtained, like one southern girl to another knowing miss Tori was up to no good puting strange ideas in my daughter's head.

Looking through the booklet on the ride home and flipping over the suckling pig image it was nothing but endless teasing and chastising. When Muhammad My Friend played, she was not too happy. She wasn't too happy about my atheist boyfriend either, I can't say I have the best memories of her. It was a crossroads period for me, as I'd found myself resonating far deeper with what Tori was saying than anything my mother had ever told me, like I'd finally been given permission for the first time to really question things and seek out something more without fear of hostility, along with a boyfriend who introduced me to a whole new way of thinking about things with an open rational mind, which is well-known to be quite dangerous in a religious household.

So I kind of tucked myself away as a means of survival as I'd always done, kept myself shut in a room with a computer to talk to my boyfriend and listen to Pele and mix tapes in peace, until I was old enough to leave and flourish on my own, and take a philosophy of religions course and maybe a little therapy too. But it was definitely a beacon for me, artistically, emotionally, I knew what it meant to live in a suffocating environment where certain emotions are censored, along with the desire to go under the surface of the day to day life to something more meaningful.
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:17 PM   #8
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My favorite album by anyone. That's all I'll say.

Also, found this a few months ago while looking for more info on the album. The "Note on Method" part is a bit much, but I do love what this person did with Tori's words by way of an album commentary. I mean, as "difficult" as people have labeled this album, Tori did a pretty good job of really explaining it extensively. Just not in one sitting, I suppose. Anyway, this compilation opened up a few doors and windows for me.

www.boys4pele.blogspot.com
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Old 07-28-2010, 04:37 AM   #9
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My favorite album by anyone. That's all I'll say.

Also, found this a few months ago while looking for more info on the album. The "Note on Method" part is a bit much, but I do love what this person did with Tori's words by way of an album commentary. I mean, as "difficult" as people have labeled this album, Tori did a pretty good job of really explaining it extensively. Just not in one sitting, I suppose. Anyway, this compilation opened up a few doors and windows for me.

www.boys4pele.blogspot.com
That website is a really good read and explanation of Boys for Pele. I finally *get* In the springtime of his Voodoo!
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Old 07-31-2010, 04:03 AM   #10
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So, "Professional Widow" came on the ipod last night, and I was wearing the good headphones. I always heard that there was a "bull" sound in the background, but I never heard the actual bull. All I heard was noise. Well, last night I heard it, and it kind of freaked me out (in a good way). What a fantastic song! I hate that the only version many non-Tori fans have heard has been the remix. I love this song on so many levels. It's crazy, frantic, weird, jolting, and a little bit scary. Man, I am just in love with Pele - all these years later there's something new! I agree with some other posters about the sound of the record. It doesn't sound dated (the PW remix does!), but it sounds ageless. It's really an experience.
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Old 07-31-2010, 04:55 AM   #11
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This is my favorite album artwork. I love the art for this. My favorite picture is the burning piano, and her in front of it. One of these days I'm going to find this on vinyl. I hope it exists.



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My favorite album artwork too !!!!! How beautiful !
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Old 07-31-2010, 05:05 AM   #12
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There's a video of Tori holding the BforPele vinyl in the Goodbye Girl (Bonn Song) thread. The back cover looks AWESOME.

And yeah the pics are amazing. That blue roof looks so cool. My favorite pic that back shot I think.
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Old 07-31-2010, 12:06 PM   #13
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This is my favorite album artwork. I love the art for this. My favorite picture is the burning piano, and her in front of it. One of these days I'm going to find this on vinyl. I hope it exists.
It does exist, I found a copy in Amoeba Records in Berkeley a little while ago. So it's out there, although I had to search for it a pretty long time before I came across it. I'm still looking for Choirgirl on vinyl too, if anyone knows where to find that.
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Old 07-31-2010, 05:12 PM   #14
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My favorite album artwork too !!!!! How beautiful !
oh yes, I have the "Orange Book". Quite a gem
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Old 08-18-2010, 09:11 PM   #15
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Just wanted to share my "Disc 2" for this album, which includes all of the b-sides structured with an "after story" in mind. Again, even though I love Tori's laughing/talking bits, I edit them out from the beginning and ends of these songs to make this sound like a clean album. I leave the bit at the end of WtD even though it's obvious it was supposed to be cut. "The drinking test is puzzling..." - it reminds me of something one of the characters from Alice in Wonderland would say. Also, I include "London Girls" even though it's not Tori's, as a sort of end credits sequence. I picture Tori on a train heading for London, asleep with her head leaning against the passenger's window.

Anyway, in the after story, Tori cools off, takes some time for herself in Ireland where she sheds/recuperates from the residual pain and exhaustion of her journey through hell and purgatory (BfP). She continues her goodbye's with the boys she loved and sacrificed. She moves through the graveyard where she meets the "boys" (men) in her life that were positive and influential to her in youth on "the other side" (it's also a way of saying good-bye to the girl she'd been). She ends up at a metaphorical Beulah Land where she undergoes a baptism of sorts. Her final rite of passage.

She then moves on to the next phase in her life: London.

Cooling - Disc 2

Cooling- "This is cooling faster than I can..."
Walk To Dublin - "I've got a girl in my pocketbook and some proverbs..."
Alamo - "Tears on my pillow, of course they're not mine..."
Hungarian Wedding Song - "All the dead are coming..."
Sister Named Desire - "They say the girl lost her way... Just see, 'cause she still can sway..."
Samurai - "And I'm free..."
Never Seen Blue - "Say good-bye to those you loved..."
Graveyard - "She's gone, but I'm alive, I'm alive..."
Toodles Mr. Jim- "Hear that your grave's a little warm, you stickler..."
Frog On My Toe - "One day you're gonna be bigger than a flea, bigger than that poison ivy tree."
Beulah Land - "You're gonna get something here ... you're right in the middle ... "

London Girls - "I've been to the east and I've been out west and I've been the world around
but I ain't seen none come anywhere near the girls from London town."
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Old 08-20-2010, 12:08 PM   #16
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I have her first 4 albums on vinyl and AATS on vinyl-

The pele vinyl is amazing cuz its "clear" vinyl, I always thought that was pretty neat
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Old 08-20-2010, 04:38 PM   #17
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Of course, it's been mentioned, but the album that is currently available is worthless. Has Tori ever said anything about the removal of Voodoo or throwing in the PW remix?

Besides, there's perfect material for a remix album or something, with the Professional Widow remix, Hey Jupiter dakota version, that Father Lucifer mix, one of the Voodoo mixes, Doughnut Song reconstructed, Talula tornado remix, Putting the Damage On Twilight mix and one of the unreleased Horses remixes, and maybe even more.

Why remove a song of the original album where the order and structure is so vitally important to the whole thing?
Why put it right in the middle of the album?
Why not make all the other remixes as easily available?
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Old 08-21-2010, 12:26 AM   #18
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The CD version sans Voodoo is horrifying. WTF?! I get why they did it, but to not have it corrected now, when the remix was a hit over a dozen years ago, is odd. I didn't know such a version existed until after I'd bought the CD, which thankfully has Voodoo and not a whiff of PW remix.

Also, I thought CDs could hold 80 minutes. Even if they tacked it on at the end, they still could have kept Voodoo.
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Old 08-21-2010, 12:31 AM   #19
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menju56, i so agree. it hurts my heart to see all the versions out there missing voodoo.
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Old 08-21-2010, 07:31 AM   #20
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I love the original Voodoo. So sad it isn't available now. My UK copy is tainted lol. Can you still buy original copies anywhere? I'd love an "original pressing". The verisions from Unplugged are amazing though. Shame she never performed it with harpsichord except on record. (unless i'm mistaken).
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